Why doesn't S. Hill catch more balls with his hands?

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  1. Barcs

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    That's true but if Hill catches that pass we more likely than not score a TD. That was a game changer just like Cromartie dropping the pick. Hill seems like he has the right attitude, I'm sure he'll improve as he gets more reps. He's a good blocker, which does help the team. I definitely believe he'll elevate his game eventually. Hell, maybe he'll be a good cornerback someday :p
     
  2. Milliner is your Mommy

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    He'll improve. A lot of receivers still drop balls I just hope he will pull in more of them and consistently get open more which I'm sure he will. Look at the improvement between Kerley year 1 and 2.
     
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    We were down 3 when he dropped that pass. Last I Checked when the clock reads 00.00 and you are down 3 points you lose. Just another thing you are wrong about.
     
  4. championjets69

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    So if stone hands catches that ball which BTW was a quite easy catch then we score a TD & @ 00.00 we have more points then the NEPs. That was a most costly drop by Mr. Stone Hands :sad:
     
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    Imo it's too early to get into a posture of declaring Hill a bust. But Kerley after all was a fifth round pick who started the year behind Holmes, Burress and Mason. He only started one game all last year, and was not even the third wideout til mid season. He showed what he had after Mason left and he took over the slot. Most of his production came later, but unlike Hill it is fair to say Kerley was not given much of a shot in the first half of the season.

    Second round pick projected as a possible starter before Opening Day is not the same as a fifth rounder who earned his way to playing time in his rookie year.
     
  6. BrowningNagle

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    Hill is a LONG, LONG ways away from being a reliable WR for the Jets. It's not just his drops, it's how he runs routes and looks lost out there. The books might say he has 4 drops, but essentially its much more. He shouldn't be out there.

    That one play last sunday stands out. Sanchez throws him a decent ball off his back shoulder in the end zone, Hill doesn't even make a play for the thing. That's a play an NFL WR makes. It's not going to go down in the books as a drop because it never touched his hands, but its most certainly an incompletion caused by him.

    Also, I forget what game it was, but Sanchez threw him the ball and instead of cutting back inside or coming back FOR the ball he stayed back and it resulted in an INT. That doesn't go into the books as a drop either, but its his fault it was an incompletion (INT) and in my book, that's a drop.

    Both of those plays weren't just because of inexperience, it speaks to more than that - a lack of confidence, a complete lack of awareness that an NFL reciever has, frankly a laziness - even if he is lost out there he should still get his fucking hands out there and try to make a play!!

    Hill is KILLING the Jets right now and not just the N.E. game (which his drop DID cost the Jets the ball game, lets not downplay it). I'd start giving him less and less time out there. If he can't be trusted what-so-ever to make any play on the ball, then its damaging to the team to throw him out there! He can "learn" from the sideline. Let Gates take his spot, because at least Gates has shown that if the ball is thrown his way he can be trusted. And Gates is a young WR too, maybe he sticks.

    I'm not saying he won't improve, but right now there's no reason at all to be encouraged by Stephen Hill. I've seen Freshman College WRs that are more polished with more awareness and ball skills. Considering the Jets lack of depth at WR it was a terrible selection because they needed someone that could step in and play, not someone who could use a "redshirt" year. He's 2 years away from just being able to not be useless let alone a nice, reliable WR.
     
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    Very nice post & right on the money also :sad:
     
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    I agree, I think he'll be much better next year. He's had a lot of injury problems right from camp, most likely due to conditioning issues. This offseason if he commits to bringing up his conditioning level he shouldn't struggle with injuries as much and should get more practice and game time.

    I think the drops are my psychological than skill based. I think he's trying to do too much because he's trying to go above and beyond, possibly because he feels added pressure with Holmes out and him basically being guaranteed a spot right after he was drafted by most people.

    The drop against the Pats he took his eye off the ball to see which direction to turn (to the corner or up the middle) in order to get more yards after the catch. Which, in and of itself, isn't a bad thing to do, in this case he should have just done it before he opened himself up to catch the ball or if he didn't have time just at least catch the ball and then if you end up turning into coverage live with it, at least you got the first down and put your team in a position to win.

    Does he have a lot of work to do? Absolutely, but what first year WR doesn't? Especially one who has missed as much game and practice time as he has?
     
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    Hill better have his head on straight for TH night.
     
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    Tell us U know for sure, sure he will improve & his problem is not a eye/hand coordination thing which by the way if it is is not coachable as that is a innate problem? :sad:
     
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    So after he scores that touchdown the Patriots just concede the loss. The fact that they had 2 and a half minutes and timeouts means nothing. Its not like they just drove down the field incredibly easily after we went up 3 anyways right.
     
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    He uses terrible mechanics with catching the ball. He doesn't see the ball quickly and sometimes turns his head around too late. Those are all fixable issues. He's never going to have Larry Fitzgerald hands but tell us where you know for sure he won't ever improve on it.
     
  13. 1968jetsfan

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    We couldn't score a TD on from the Patariots 18 yard line when we recovered the muffed kick off after the FG, what makes you think we score a TD given the same field position, roughly, if Hill catches tha pass? Hmm?
     
  14. 1968jetsfan

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    The pass that you refer to as being Hills fault that it was picked off, Hill was wide open in the Endzone against the Patriots in, I think it was the first Quarter (might have been the 2nd), Sanchez thew a waffel ball and underthrew Hill by 10 yards or so. Hill had no shot at getting the ball, though he did hesitate slightly on turning in to a defender and probably should have gone ahead and comitted offensive pass interference on that play to prevent the interception. Sorry but when you underthrow your wide open receiver by 10 yards, you deserve to be picked off.
     

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