The system Zach played in college is the most similar to what he played in college than all the other QBs mentioned. High level experience (LOL) they will all be making a big jump. Zach is in totally different situation than those others QB NE, Chicago and San Fran are all projected playoff teams. The Jets are young and rebuilding and will Start Zach, Trevor will start in Jacksonville as well. There is zero evidence he is injury prone and yes he played in a similar system in college has a decent O-line and sitting for a handful of games will not help his development playing will. He is not coming from a spread offense. As long as he has a grasp of the playbook he should start. I do think having veteran presence in the QB room is helpful. Not to compete but understand how you act or not act with coaches, how a an NFL qb prepares etc. He has gotten a lot of that from John Beck and he has one of the best QB coaches in the business. Zach (With an h not a k) will be fine starting from day 1 in fact there is no reason he should not.
The Jets had Sam Darnold as their starting QB. They felt Zach Wilson was better, so they traded Sam and drafted Wilson. Of course he will be inserted into the starting line up. No need for him to have a training camp battle. I am a fan who keeps saying he wants a veteran back-up for Wilson, but not to push him for the starting job. I just like having security in case Wilson gets injured.
and and and and and Brilliant, spot on answers, guys. I couldn't agree more or have said it any better.
Our past QB's have failed because they were bad QB's, not necessarily because they played too soon. Their time in the league with other teams has shown that experience wasn't the problem, they were just bad QB's and would be backups for most of their careers. Recent years have shown that rookie QB's who are good tend to be pretty good immediately. If Wilson fails it will likely be because he turns out to be a bad QB, not because we started him too early. We should have a pretty solid OL and offensive weapons in the coming few years. If Wilson fails it will be mainly his fault.
The Jets need to establish an identity with QB leadership. We haven't done that with the last two QBs. Sanchez came to a veteran team, so it was difficult for him establish himself as the leader. Likewise for Darnold, who came to the team with Adams as the defacto leader. Wilson is coming to a team devoid of proven leadership, so he's got a clear shot as establishing himself as the FQB and leader of this team. When you draft a QB #2 overall, the assumption is that he can play, so it's important for him to get out there, make plays, take his lumps and become the leader of this team.
We've got more new faces than ever this year. They all get right in there together, and that means the coaches too. Guys whose first year was last year can just pretend it never happened. All gas, no ass.
Well said. Sanchez and Darnold were/are not nearly as talented as Zach. They weren't helped by their GMs, HCs, or OCs, but I don't think it would have made a huge difference with either of them. Peyton Manning started as a rookie and was awful, but he had a pretty good career. As you rightly point out, If QBs have what it takes they can start day one and succeed. Newton, Herbert, Jackson, Allen, I believe that Minshew did as well. The only thing in your post that I take exception with is that if Zach fails is will be mainly his fault. IMO if he fails, it will be either due to injury or he can't adjust to the NFL game. We know that Zach works hard, wants to be the best he can, loves to learn, is a film junkie, etc. So if he fails, it won't be because he didn't work hard (unless something drastically changes in his character like he gets a big head after early success and stops working to improve and starts partying). If that happened, then it would definitely be his fault, but if he fails due to injuries or just can't adapt, then that's not really his fault. It would be no one's fault. I don't think he will fail to adapt, and don't think he will fail. I think he's going to become a top 3-5 QB in the NFL and be a star.
Sorry for offering some common sense. I'll get in line with the acceptable responses. Everyone else is doing it wrong. I'm so glad were doing it right for once. Just give the rook the rock and stand back. GO JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why? Because the Jets are a bad franchise with bad precepts behind their organizational strategy. The fact that they have failed to develop a QB twice now doing this in the last 12 years and are swinging hard at strike 3 tells you everything you need to know about the situation. If the Fins had done this and were going for strike 3 right now it would be obvious to everybody what the problem was, however since it is the Jets we have QB fever again and are likely to watch it develop into a bad case of the sweats before it's all over.
The intelligent thing to do with a young quarterback making a double competition leap would've been to stick him on the bench for a year and not let outside pressures fight it especially with a brand new system, coaching staff and basically a brand new roster. Some rookie quarterbacks can easily handle any pressures that come with starting day one and it's not an issue. Others end up pretty damaged. As things are currently advertised - we will not be throwing the ball a ton so it shouldn't be a huge issue. Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, and Jacoby Brissett all would've made sense for us but Douglas hedged that he would get more for Darnold if he didn't telegraph his future quarterback decisions by doing so. We'll see how it plays out, Cotton.
In your haste to throw out the sarcastic response your post is full of inconsistencies as per. Actually, no commonsense at all. The Jets are the only one doing it this way, wow, no other rookies have ever started right from the off eh? Colour me shocked at that stat. I wonder if a guy like you exists on the Jags forums?
What you want to do when you draft a spiky young talent who is going to need some seasoning is to go get a good vet on the backside of his career and let him start out of training camp. There is always one guy out there who is willing to take one more $10M payday and who is definitely good enough to keep the rookie on the bench. In 2004 for the Giants it was Kurt Warner. In 2006 for the Packers it was Brett Favre. In 2017 for the Chiefs it was Alex Smith. Last year for the Fins it was Ryan Fitzpatrick. There is always somebody available who is guaranteed to keep the pressure off the kid and off the team in the process. The Jets however, despite having Vinny to cover for Chad and seeing how that turned out performance-wise, have had nobody available to keep the kids out of the frying pan and then getting dumped into the fire. This is like NFL 101 but the Jets routinely flunk NFL Kindergarten.
The days of seasoning your young QB on the bench are long gone. Zach Wilson may fail, it won’t be because he started game 1 though.
Patrick Mahomes. The days aren't long gone. It's just that there are still idiots running NFL teams who never understood how the game works in the first place.
You do realize that not one of those qbs you listed fit the “one more payday” category you are pushing ,right?
Joe Burrow. Justin Herbert. Kyler Murray. Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson. Baker Mayfield. There are examples of both methods working. Most of the success stories from recent history are of guys who started right away, actually. The rules and schemes in the NFL are currently the most QB friendly they've ever been.
