Lee is a mixed bag, makes some flashy plays and then follows that up by losing his assignment, or being piss poor in coverage. I want to see how he plays against better competition this season (which we will see plenty of the rest of the way). After 2 years, we'll have a relatively good idea what to expect of him
This Dude has been a Jet for 2 years now?? Oh wait..... he has got to develop...maybe absolve your guilt for drafting this clown in the first round All these posters will be happy if he is Player of the Year by 2019
You forget to add 'IMO'...Lol This is up there with your "Bowles was crying out for help" because he was scared, or some such psychological notion, when he had that health issue last year. It's noticeable also that the Lee haters are true haters. They like to throw in exaggerated non factual, sometimes made up, stuff to justify it.
No one is arguing that Lee has met the lofty expectations of his high draft position, but he has shown me flashes of briallance, in between some seriously out of position rookie moves. People are really hating on Lee to strengthen their position against Mac and his draft. Sorry, boys, his draft and his last minute dampster pick ups have been pretty damned good in the aggregate. Better than mostly every other GM before him. .Mac's biggest fuck up, IMO, was giving Mo that big ass contract. Yet no one talks about it. What a total waste of money. I'll take Lee's ups and downs with his one hundred percent effort versus Mo half hearted waltz job. Yeh, Mo, another in the long list of draft selections that never reached their potential, like Coples, Pryor and the rest of the previous draft choices. Mac is the least of our problems, Bowles on the other hand.....TBD.
You forgot Mac's entire 2015 free agency period too as a mark on his bad decisions report card. His drops and pickups have looked very good this year. But that 2015 free agency was an abomination. Only two players remain on the roster from all of those pickups. We also signed 4 fucking defensive backs. Awful. 2 are out of the league, 1 is a backup safety in Houston and Skrine is still a meh defensive back playing out of his natural position in the slot. Money could've been much better spent. The quoted below is a list of players still contributing not only in the league, but mostly on the teams that signed them that free agency period. I'm sure I'm missing some as well. Not an amazing list. But there's certainly some talent there where the money could've been better spent. Mac's won be over a bit more this season. He still hasn't been great.
You are right Vilma. To be fair I should have included 2015. I have always viewed 2015 as an aberration in strategy with the edict to win now from Woody. But be that as it may, Mac could have done far better spending precious dollars on vets, assuming some of the people in your list were willing to come to the Jets.
really outside of clay, maclin, crabtree, oher, and murray i don't see what we missed. clay is good, but i like ASJ better and tomlinson has potential. oher would have been nice but beechum is doing really good this season and we had brick at the time. murray got big money as a RB and isn't doing well this season. I like powell and maguire. So really the only big loss was maclin who is having a down season this year becuase of age/QB play and crabtree. and crabtree is a big possession guy who needs a number 1 opposite of him (cooper in oakland) to be good. So overall not a lot lost
So you'd rather have Revis, Cromartie, Gilchrist and Skrine than four players on that list? We've had to fill those positions because of that atrocious short thinking offseason and it set the franchise back. Not to mention having nearly all of them on the cap for the following offseason where we were essentially handcuffed to not sign anyone but Forte and resigning Fitz to that stupid deal. We also lost Damon Harrison as a result. I'll add in hindsight that I didn't want to re-sign Harrison. But man I wish we did re-sign him over Wilkerson. We struck a season too soon. Take a look. 2016 Free agency Janoris Jenkins was the corner to sign to a big deal a year later. Rodney McLeod has been awesome as well at safety. Jeff Allen and Mitchell Schwartz are legitimately good blockers in this league. Kelechi Osemele might be the best guard in football. Alex Mack lead the Falcons top ground attack last year. We had to sit on our hands and scramble to try to keep our own players instead.
I'm not close to knowing much about the money side. Does a lot of money open up again for next season? I know the money had to be spent in '15 and I believe Woody had a part, in that he directed Mac somewhat. Now that we went this route this year what does the cap look like moving forward for FA's?
Yes. I omitted that. The money needed to be spent. And for the most part he did a good job making sure it didn't handcuff us long term. But that Revis deal killed us. That money could've been spent on several players rather than one aging corner.
Definitely in hindsight. That was Woody as far as I'm concerned. But I admit, I was happy he was back at the time. What about next year? If there's money things could change rapidly.
We need to get back on topic........ SHARRON LEE NOT ONLY SUCKS AS A PLAYER, BUT I SUSPECT HE TAKES IT UP THE ASS AS WELL? Remember Kerry Rhodes? He started playing like a pussy and everyone started calling him SHERRY. Then everyone found out he was a fag. Same here. Darron Lee sucks and plays football like old people f*ck. Everyone has started calling him Sharron. Next, everyone is going to find a video with Sharron and that flaming fag from Sherry's video rolling in the sheets. This should get the thread back on point.
Hahah, he really does look more comfortable holding a man as opposed to the staged pose he has with his wife. If that were my wife you wouldn't see my hands around her rib cage.
I didn't want him back. I can find posts from myself against that his signing. You never sign a non quarterback or pass rusher to that sort of deal. He can't make enough impact plays to justify that sort of money. No cornerbacks can. Not to mention he was never the type of threat say Deion Sanders was to turn interceptions into scores. I believe he only had one pick six in his career? Maybe two. Still. No corner is worth $17 million a year. But if you're going to pay them that money they better be completely shutdown on the #1 receiver like he was in 2008-2010 or picking off a ton of balls. He wasn't playing at near that level, even the prior season with the Patriots. He was lining up on the #2 target and getting safety help at times. The Patriots usually play a two deep shell with safety help over the top as they play that bend don't break defense. Perfect D for Revis to read and react on short to intermediate routes.
You were right. I didn't mean I thought your point was in hindsight. I was looking in hindsight. Even if we beat Buffalo that last game it wasn't going anywhere, and it killed us later. I was always a huge fan of Darrelle and I admit I liked it, but Woody tried to right wrong and it was shortsighted. Now, would you please tell me what our cap situation will be next year, and beyond? I'm clueless when it comes to that side of this, Lol. I'm liking the prospects of the team improving next year, especially if we're set up for some signings with the moulah. Add that with the draft and things could be looking good going into the '18 season....and I'm actually interested in this fucking team again, lol.
We currently have $64,855,527 in space for 2018. That doesn't account for any savings we could gain by releasing Will and Skrine. Check out overthecap.com You can play with the roster, cut and extended players and see the ramifications vs the cap. We have several of our own players to resign that will eat into our cap as well.
