JTRAIN....You are a smart smart man.... Listen guys, we are closer being dominate on D...we are a decade away from that on O...I will say we need to improve our O so we can spell the D, but to pick a QB or RB is insaine in my opnion. In my initial post I said why AJ would be a Jet... I would like him to be, and if you take what I said about all the other guys like Cutler, D'Brick and White, Williams in to account I am right. They do not have that ability to change the game next year for us. Add AJ to the D and he could very well be the thing we need to get over the hump on D. Again, mark my words, write it in stone, put "" around it...we still will not use the #4 pick...we will trade it away for a few reasons....but #1 reason is that WE CAN NOT AFFORD IT....PLEASE CALL ME OUT ON IT AND PROVE TO ME HOW WE CAN AFFORD THE #4 PICK??
Look RochesterJet knows what he is talking about. Defense wins games and it will be good to have a great o line but it does not come over night. I am a big D'brick fan and I am more of a fan when I heard that he was ate 312. But People are forgeting that Hawk will be a threat especially a long side Vilma and Bartion and when it comes down to it look at the ravens and bears. If we draft Gilles he will be a great addition. I say we get Hawk and our defense will be opposing times nightmare for years to come.
Exactly....we will need to release guys that have upside, will will have to restucture contracts that will put us in more debt don the road...WE CANT AFFORD TO DRANFT CUTLER, LINEHARDT, YOUNG or Even D'Brick. It wont happen, you guys need to start being more realistic....yes I do have dreams as well but then its time to wake up...so can you all please wake up and stop this nonsence about D'brick, cutler....ect....we will either Draft Hawk at #4, or we will trade down, purley for cap reasons.
There are a lot of great players you can choose at the #4 spot. You just can't draft them all. Our defense is not that bad. With needing around 3 drafts to get this team back into contention, we have to start with the offense!
Ok, here's how it's going to work. If chad renegotiates (which he probably will) We will not draft cutler with only 1 1st round pick. If he goes then yea, I could see us drafting him. But I would take dbrik, just because our linbacking core is fine, our o-line sucks. So you can also take a qb in the later rounds
Agree, this is a deep o-line draft...we need a RT, C, G, and some depth after that either in day 2 or in FA. With that being said we will adress the o-Line trough the draft...we just wont do it in round 1...we will pick up a qb like Brodie in round 4 and strengthen the D...especcially if we decide to go to a 3-4 r a combo of both 4-3 and 3-4. BUT THE KEY IS COST EFFECTIEVE PLAYERS...all you sportscenter fans will be dissappointed because we will not get one of the top 5 names....As I stated before....please can somebody explaine to me how we will draft a QB or LT with the #4 pick....be specific...do just say restructure or cut....that is very vauge...who and how much? I like your passion but you logic is not there...we need cap space an the only way we will do that is by moving our of the top 10 and not investing $$$ in 1 guy...look how it bitten us with Penny, ABE, Curtis (thank god he is a good charictor and team guy), DROB....
True dude so true...but listen...our quarterback "problem" for those of you who think that...it can be fixed much faster than our o-line...we must REBUILD our offensive line, yes i agree chad isn't that reliable...but I know half of these jet fans will be loving him if he has an amazing year!. So maybe we can trade for another 1st round pick...then we can draft jay cutler ( or someone of desent pretige, and eric winston the tackle from miami
Offense takes longer to develop then defense. We need to get franchise building blocks asap on offense, get a line to protect them and while keeping our youth core on defense. Adding maybe one or two players early in the draft to compliment Miller, Coleman, Rhodes, Vilma, Roberston and Ellis. We already have 5 young good defensive players. The same can't be said on offensive. If Gabe Watson or Tye Hill fall into the second round I would love to have them. Otherwise the Jets need to draft an calibur player along the lines of Mangold or Calhoun.
I would rather have a great DEFENSE and an slightly below aveerage Offense, than an OK defense and an OK offense. Hawk IMO could be the guy that makes use an top flight defense. While I agree that we have many, many, many holes on O, no one player can propell use to a ELITE Offense this year. Fill the holes in the line in the 2nd and 3rd pick up Brodie in the 4th a WR in the 5th and some role players in FA
exactly, look at the superbowl bucs and ravens. offense won't come over night, but having a great defense allows the offense to make mistakes and possibly win games with it. look at the bears this year. By getting gilles we add a piece to the line so we add a urlacer type guy and a great o line prospect.
I would still like people to convince me that we can afford Cutler and D'Brick... to me its more about the ability to have a elite D with the draft f one player...we wont be able to do that with one player on the other side...we need many picks to do that and with a deep oline draft we will still be able to do it.
It doesn't matter what we say, tannenbaum would be risking his own well being by drafting a defensive player in rd 1
dude, theres no way we draft defense first.. you said it yourself that we are a decade form rebuilding the offense.. then why wait?? we have a high pick that we can trade down and get extra picks.. why not go and fill those needs we have.. in your opinion, what are we waiting for to start building our offense.. we must do this in the next few years of the draft..
I have been posting for several weeks that I think it will be Hawk. Several reasons: 1)Mangini. Belicheck/Parcells disciple. Would either of those guys pass on Hawk. 2)If Pennington actually makes a comeback and you draft Cutler..you now have big money tied up in a back-up QB, if Pennington and Croyle(or whoever you draft) both suck you draft a QB in the first round next year 3)D"brick? Why draft a left tackle when what you really need is a right tackle 4)RB? Martin, Houston and whoever your draft in a later round(or Blaylock) will be fine for a year, you can take a rb in first or second round next year. 5) With one pick you move the D toward being one of the most dominant units in the league..most of your other draft picks(this year and next) and FA acquisitions can be on offense. 6) Hawk has the speed and smarts to be used in a vesatile manner not just lining up as OLB on one side of the field
There is no chance the Jets or anyone else drafts a linebacker in the top 5 unless Lawrence Taylor is available or he can be a 3-4 pass rusher like Merriman. I expect the Jets to draft Cutler or Mario Williams or trade down. Keep in mind when BB took over in New England his first two picks were on the lines. Seymour and then Matt Light. I expect in round one we take Mario Williams and in round two we take a tackle. Forget about offensive skill players if we can't control the line of scrimmage on either side of the ball theres no reason to even play.
