Why 45-3 happened and won't happen again

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  1. Mossachusetts

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    Patriots - 37

    Jets - 17
     
  2. jetsaholic1094

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    Yeah, it's never a great proposition to face BB after he gets 2 weeks to prepare. I wonder how the weather will be then as well.
     
  3. TommyJ

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    if the jets can do to brady what they did on sat. night to start the game against manning, they have a great shot. the jets D made huge plays on 3 consecutive 3rd and shots and forced the colts to punt each time. a couple of stops to start off the game and the jets woill be in good shape to compete.
     
  4. DavidVeloz418

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    The best defense for the Jets will be their offense. The way to beat Brady is too keep him off the field. And if the Jets are in the red zone, they need to score touchdowns, that is the only way they could have a chance at winning this thing. :up:
     
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    How many times were we down by 10 or more points? Aside from 45-3 we lost games 10-9, 10-6, 9-0; in Chicago we came from down 10-0 to go up 21-10 and lost 38-34.
     
  6. JetsUK

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    This is the problem with a non-generic username!
     
  7. LSUtiger

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    It will be very difficult for the jets to beat the pats in round 3 of this divisional slugfest. For it to happen, I believe the jets will need to accomplish 6 of the following 8 items I think to eek out a win -- tough, but possible, if Sanchez plays one of his better games and the defense pressures Brady (hard to see this given the last half of the season, but Taylor has given Brady problems in the past):

    1. Hold Ben-Jarvis/Woody/Taylor to less than 100 yards rushing total, forcing the Pats to be 1-dimensional.

    2. No touchdowns given up to the Gronk/Hernandez/Alge combo.

    3. Win the turn-over battle.

    4. Eliminate any special team big play (>50 yrds)/score from the Pats.

    5. Frustrate Brady like the Ravens did last year with constant pressure and possibly a turn-over.

    6. Win the time of possession battle by at least a 35-25 min margin.

    7. Jets run for >150 yrs total.

    8. Score 28 pts.
     
  8. Italian Seafood

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    If we get one of those January New England says--a snowstorm and/or some wind, fog, etc, a lot of that can happen.
     
  9. ace_o_spades

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    Obviously the Patriots played incredibly well blowing us out 45-3 but I think it was a comedy of errors by us that ended the game before it even really started.

    Going for that 53 yarder in the bad weather was a poor poor choice. Weatherford has been pinning teams inside the 10 all fucking year and he would have had a chance to do so again. Maybe the Patriots score a TD but not as fucking fast as they did on the short field. That put us down 10-0 real quick.

    Then we went 3 and out and Weatherford completely shanked the punt giving NE another short field. 17-0. Game is pretty much over at this point.

    So it's 24-3 at the half, we get the ball and get 1st and goal. Sanchez throws a pick into quadruple coverage and that officially ends it. If we had gotten a TD there, it would be 24-10 and if we get a stop who knows?

    If we can avoid these kinda things we won't lose 45-3. It's still possible we get blown out tho.
     
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  10. Mossachusetts

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    Ok, lol?:rofl:
     
  11. Footballgod214

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    so you agree the pats will play worse and the jets will play better, closing the gap.

    now that that's settled, it's just a question of how much.
     
  12. 85inthehall

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    i agree with the analysts saying that was the first time the Jets saw the post moss Pats. They saw the way the browns beat them down and figured no problem. Issue was blitzing brady just opened things up for their new quick strike 4 yard dump and run offense. The Jets need to figure out how they handle some of the formations...on some plays revis was covering Crumpler on the outside which basically is just a waste of our best player.
     
  13. Jets n Boys

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    No, Rex called it the "marquee game". He had plenty to say as usual. Here's just one link:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5851867
     
  14. LeonNYJ

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    After Sanchez threw that pick in the beginning of the 2nd half, the Jets just completely stopped playing. All the points after that were just the Patriots rubbing salt into the wound and the Jets just accepting it.
     
  15. Italian Seafood

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    Our tackling was Pop Warner level that night, too. Look at the highlights, just about every Pats TD was a guy dragging or shedding defenders who should have brought him down. Rex stressed fundamentals on D after the Chicago game, the tackling has been much better the past two games.
     
  16. blantyr

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    Match ups

    Yep. Adding Randy Moss in 2007 changed what the Patriots offense was doing big time. It took a while, but by late season people were figuring out how to play it and games weren't as lopsided. Subtracting Randy Moss and adding tight ends that could catch the ball had much the same effect. I'm hoping it will last three more games, but you can't count on it.

    Still, it is in part a match up problem. Most teams needed two guys to cover Moss, which meant the Patriots could send Moss deep and play 10 on 9 football over the rest of the field. Revis changed that. He could hang with Randy which left everyone else playing ten on ten.

    To counter the two big tight ends with receiver skills, you need players that can both cover on pass plays and stop a power run game. I don't doubt that the Jets will be looking for over sized pass defenders this off season, but meanwhile it will be interesting to see how teams try to handle the problem with existing personnel.
     
  17. LSUtiger

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    You definately don't want to play from behind with the Pats. If they get up by 21 or more, it will be long day as they can go one-dimensional on defense and put alot of pressure on Sanchez.

    If the Jets win, the keys will be they rushed the ball well, no turnovers, won the time of possession battle, and made the pats one-dimensional by shutting down the run game.

    The pats greatest strengths in the game are their:
    1. tightends -- Jets don't match up well
    2. Brady -- obviously difficult to make him get nervous without a big pass rush.
    3. Excellent gameplan and clock management by Bellicheck.

    Jets have their own advantages they must play to:
    1. Strong run game and average to below-average pats run defense (especially with their depleted D-line)
    2. Weaker Pats run game
    3. Pats kicker is a unknown -- Graham has choked in the playoffs before and if its close, this could be an achilles heel.
     
  18. Jets n Boys

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    We let Patriots win 45-3. It created an overconfident feeling for the Pats. Rex wanted exactly that. He wanted the Pats to be overconfident next time he faces them. Now he can play football again against the second best QB, if not the best QB in the NFL, unlike last time around when Rex was calling the game off of Madden 2011.
     
  19. Italian Seafood

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    This is why I think having all that film of Pats players executing it perfectly against Jet players will help Rex. With no big gun to worry about, maybe he moves Revis around a lot more and makes Brady have to find him and adjust every time, we'll have to see.
     
  20. GreenerPastures

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    And ?
    That's exactly what I was referring to. No bulletin board material there. Gave respect to his opponent and talked up his teams chances. I see no bravado or arrogance.
     

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