Whose Subscribes to The Trent Dilfer Theory?

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  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    only way Jets are doing anything major is if the turnover differential is at the tops of the league ... if Geno doesn't beat us, we will be beating at least 9 other teams
     
  2. max

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    Thank you. What I was trying to point out and you even got more specific with the factor of defensive scores. Our D, as good as it may be, isn't going to pull that off.
     
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  3. Unhappyjetsfan

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    It's your only other option if you don't have a Pro Bowl-caliber QB.

    Nope ...

    (a) You have to have QB who is at least competent, and

    (b) You have to have a top notch coaching staff.

    I know we don't have "a" (at least not the starting QB) and "b" is completely unproven.
     
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    Great post. I still hate the rangers though :p
     
  5. Footballgod214

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    We need to be like the 2010 NY Jets but with a Defense that shows up in the first half of the AFCCG.
     
  6. jerseyjay14

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    when has geno smith ever "thrown for alot of yards"?

    geno has miles to go before being able to shine elis shoes
     
  7. jerseyjay14

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    or an offense that can score from the 1 when they are given 4 straight downs to do so
     
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  8. DaBallhawk

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    That's because we never had our best players play on the same team, on the same defense. It was always overlapping by a year or two. Just didn't work out. When we had decent safeties we lacked elite corners and pass rushers. When we had pass rushers we lacked elite safeties and corners. When we had elite corners we lacked safeties and pass rushers. Now (at least on paper) we seem to have all the pieces together.
     
  9. Jersey Joe 67

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    Dilfer was a much smarter player then Geno and that's where the improvement in Geno's play needs to be, his decision making.
    The defense looks incredible on paper but lets see it transition to the playing field(not that I have much doubt it will).

    I understand those that feel the chemistry needs to build with the new system and such but if this team puts a few wins together they could very well catch fire and surprise a lot of people.

    Gailey is the most important cog in the machine imo, if he can tailor his system around Geno and play to his strengths then the sky is the limit.

    My main concern on offense are the TEs.
     
  10. JetsFan

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    If Fitz starts and he plays like he did last year, it could happen. Our defense is that good. With Geno starting NO way!
     
  11. Dierking

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    First, props to champ for making a thread marginally worth participating in.:mad:

    Second, the Jets D is nowhere near as good as that Ravens D was. They were like a young Mike Tyson, they had teams beat in the locker room. The Jets have talent, but they aren't intimidating like that. If they can get Coples on the field and decapitating people on a regular basis, maybe. But I don't see it.
     
  12. NYJetsO12

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    When you want answers to such questions usual you need only check out what Vegas prognasticates since they have $ to gain or lose. So latest odds for Jets 2015-16 :

    AFC Champions: 22/1

    Super Bowl Champions : 50/1

    Not impossible, but certainly not probable.
     
  13. Footballgod214

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    that's asking for a lot don't ya think????
     
  14. kevmvp

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    Our passing game should be better than the 2000 Ravens. We have better talent then they had. All depends on the QB though. This defense has a chance to be special. But right now it's only on paper.
     
  15. pclfan

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    Again the whole deal for the Jets in 2015 is on turnovers.
     
  16. Br4d

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    The problem with the Dilfer Theory is that the modern salary cap doesn't let you keep a defense like the 2000 Ravens had together for long. That makes the window to actually win it with a great defense alone maybe a 1 year proposition, maybe 2 at the outside.

    In that very short window you have to both find your complementary QB and you have to find the great player on offense or mix of very good ones to support him. You have to avoid an injury run. You have to get good bounces from the football.

    So you're looking at a really unlikely scenario at this point. Your mediocre complementary QB has to avoid having one of his lesser seasons alongside all of the above.

    The reason teams are so QB focused right now is that if you have a good one it takes the pressure off of the team in multiple other areas. You still need to get good play across the board but a minor failure here and there doesn't doom you the way it does with a Dilfer plan.

    The other thing about the Dilfer Theory that has always been off when applied to other teams is the Jamal Lewis Reality. The Ravens only did what they did with that great defense and Dilfer because they had a great young back, still fully healthy, doing his thing.
     
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  17. xxedge72x

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    The ideal team at this point has an elite QB, elite OL, great DL, great CBs, and opportunistic playmakers across the rest of the roster.

    Aka the Patriots last year.
     
  18. MexicanJet

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    Fitz could be our Dilfer.. NOT Geno...


    But it doesn't matter.. neither are good enough to carry this team to a super bowl or any significant playoff actions..
     
  19. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I'm more of a jim mcmahon guy myself.

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  20. Jersey Joe 67

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    The rookie wage scale has helped with being able to keep guys together a little longer but it certainly is tough.
     

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