please.........believe me i blame both of them for different reasons, but Shotty calls the offense dude. you think he's asking for approval for each play he calls? Shit, if that were the case I could go on the field and coordinate the offense. The Game plan is the big picture, the specific plays called within the plan are on Shotty. you don't have to run the ball every first down. Rex is on the hook for the penalties (the interference calls), specifically, putting Wilson in harm's way too much...........although I gotta say to both Wilson and Cormartie, fellas, just turn your heads around a little quicker and those aren't penalties.
Tannenbaum. We had 2 receivers on the roster. Smith doesn't count because we never throw to him. Nor does Woodhead unless they play him.. So that's 2 legitimate WR's and 4 TE's on the team. WTF? Is it any surprise we didn't throw the ball? Look at NE, NO the Ravens, hell, even the Giants. Lots of targets to throw to. We all saw the financial decisions they made on Hard Knocks. Entering an important NFL game with so few WR's seems almost criminal.. Even when Holmes comes in by week 5 it could be too late and we're still thin if someone gets hurt. Other big concern is OL. They haven't shown they can run block like last year. And if this is a run, run, pass, cha, cha, cha team, that's going to be a big problem...
Yep, my feelings exactly. For the most part we looked undisciplined and un focused. We gave the game away. When you have an overall mess like that last night, that falls on the man on top. I think the team got a reality check last night. I still have high hopes for this team but this has to be straightened out ASAP.........
"All of the Above" would have gotten my vote, but given these choices: Brian Schotteheimer got my vote. Its a perfect irony his initials are "B.S."
Woody gets my vote. For his greedy PSLs I wasn't at the game and therefore we lost because I wasn't there. So maybe it's MY FAULT for not buying a PSL?
The refs last night were the same crew who called the Ravens Green Bay game last year.. Which I believe set a record in PI calls in a game. Could of taken advantage of that last night.
Dennis Thurman needs to be on that list. He seemed more interested in being on camera on Hard Knocks than teaching guys how to effectively play man. WTF has he been teaching the CBs all summer? Bush league grabbing shirts nonsense. We dont need to be all over the f--king guy like some Hawaiian shirt --- the PATS play cover D based on position, - not getting their hands all over the guy & possibly drawing flags. Stop going for the pick & try to frustrate the QB.
Schottenheimer How in the world is Sanchez ever going to mature as a QB and feel like the Jets are his team unless he has more opportunities to throw the ball.
Rex and Schotty are to blame. This team looked undiciplined unfocused and the offensive game plan was attrocious! At what point as a head coach do you go over to your OC and say,"lets take the handcuffs off the kid and THROW THE FUCKING BALL"!? How can you not try and exploite the fact that 2 of their best players in the secondary are not on the field? Why the fuck to you run at them when THAT'S THE STRENGTH OF THEIR DEFENSE!? Shotty is clearly lost and Rex being the HC is just as lost for not telling Schotty to change his game plan.
I picked Schotty, just because I haven't liked him since halfway through the 2006 season. But there is plenty of blame to go around. The Ravens picked up our blitzes really well, though. They had trouble early on, but our pressure wasn't nearly as effective as it was last season. Rex needs to make some adjustments unless he wants Belichick to use this game as a blueprint next Sunday. Kyle Wilson made some rookie mistakes. It's going to happen this year. Cromartie was terrible with the defensive holding, though. He really is dumb as a brick. Either Thurman and Revis help him developing a jam at the LOS or he'll be a walking PI machine like Ty Law was for us both times he played here. Slauson struggled. The Ravens knew where the weak spot was and they exploited it in a number of ways. Rex has Schotty calling an ultra-conservative game plan. It almost felt like Marty Schottenheimer was calling the plays last night. I also thought was could have used Brad Smith in more creative ways than they did. Schotty is schooling Sanchez in the art of the super-cute pre-snap motion-filled smoke and mirrors nonsense and it sucks. I would have liked to see a lot more of Shonn Greene, he got himself into the doghouse pretty quick and our running game devolved into using LT in the least effective ways possible. He's not Shonn Greene. Stop running him into the pile, mix it up with outside runs, he still has the speed to get the corner. Overall it was a lackluster performance, and if Rex thinks that was a statement game, then the statement is speak loudly and eat crow on Monday.
ALL OF THIS! It's killing me that no one (on radio) is talking about how BAD a lot of those calls were. Compare it to the second game where the officals let the damn players play. AND the NE game looks sooooo much more daunting now.
Schotty to blame? Totally new here guys and of course it's a pleasure to be around all the Jets Maniacs. I am proud to call myself one as well. Check out the article on MVP Gotham, the guy puts a lot of the blame on Brian Schottenheimer and I can't say that I disagree. The guy loves the run but has no idea about balance as the writer says. I can't post links cause I am new here so just do a Google on Brian Schottenheimer and MVP Gotham. I believe the title was "The Blame Game" Look forward in getting to know everyone here!
I agree with much of this. However, as for them picking up our blitzes, maybe I'm just a homer but it seemed to me like their tackles got away with holding pretty much the entire second half. That pissed me off during the game every time I saw a flag thrown on us and not them (clearly best example was Lowrey getting raped, but that's an easy one to point to. I surprisingly law Gholston held at least twice blatantly with no call)
To me, it seems Rex' talk has put a bullseye on this team not just for the other NFL teams, but the refs as well. You get a reputation as an undisciplined team, and the refs are more likely to call a penalty because it's already in their head that "the Jets are undisciplined". Look at the Raiduhzz for all those years - they had that reputation, and they led the league in penalties year in and year out. There's no way they committed more penalties than any other NFL team, they just got called more because of their rep. I think the Jets are heading that way. It's gonna be a long season.
There's nothing wrong with our defensive backfield's style of play. We're not going to have that officiating crew every week.
This article here was posted on thejetsblog.com... it's really right on point and shows how pathetic Schottenheimer truly is. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-offenses-not-one-300-yard-passer-since-2006 The Jets haven't had a 300 yard passer since 06. What's truly crazy is after Pennington and Favre both left Schottenheimer they went on to have excellent seasons. The guy is a disgrace as a coordinator. With all the talent the Jets have on offense, there is no reason for it to be like this. I can't imagine why this guy gets head coaching consideration. What a joke.
I don't know that I've ever cursed as much during a football game. Yes, there were legit penalties called on us, but a LOT of those calls were pure bullshit. I've read someone else mention (not sure if in this thread) that it seems as if our brash talk put a bullseye on our backs for the refs, but it damn sure looked like it last night!
Honestly after lastnights game Im more concerned with Shonn Greene then LT at this point and did you see Slauson get just freakin bulldozed by Haloti Ngata? He's not going to help matters at all with an already tentative Sanchez
