Under G. Williams as DC there are multiple contenders. Leonard Williams, Jamal Adams, C.J Mosley and Quinnen Williams should all be really dominant players under an aggressive and attacking defense. But for most sacks I'm going Jordan Jenkins. Kid put up 7.5 sacks last year and I feel can flirt with 10-12 this up coming season due to upgraded talent surrounding him. Regardless of who steps up in terms of sacks. Great news for our defense. N.E's starting Center could be out for entire season with bloodclots in his lungs. Either season ending or will miss a significent amount of time. Not good for old man Tom Brady with guys like Anderson, Leo, Quinnen, Jenkins and Adams all having pass rush ability.
Okay so Leo is the second or third highest paid Jets defender in 2019. Why get so defensive about it? $14.2 million is still a ton of cash for one season. For that type of cash and the position he plays YES I will expect him to lead the team in sacks. I don't think I'm being unfair or unrealistic by expecting this. Hidden/zero production ain't gonna cut it in 2019. The players making the biggest bucks have to produce the most that's how it's supposed to work.
i'm not being defensive. just showing how insane your point is. it's not like the jets gave him a 5 year deal at 71 million. it's an option year so not comparable to an actual contract. robby got the same thing and is only making 3 million. meanwhile Q and crowder are making 9 and 9.5 mil a year respectively. so are you going to shit on Q and crowder for not leading the team in yards receiving? I was pointing out your argument makes 0 sense contract wise. if you want to talk about production that's different, but sadly your idea of production is 1 category. It would be like saying revis sucked because he had 0 INTs meanwhile he was by and far the best CB in the NFL
This is a difficult question to predict..we don't yet fully know how Gregg Williams is going to use our players schematically during the regular season, I think we have not shown all of our looks in pre season games. I don't think that we'll have a double digits sack player this season, instead we potentially have many who have maybe half a dozen.. but who will have the most, my bet is Jenkins.
LOL. Weren't you the one that brought up Damian Harrison? That guy's getting like $12m this year. Look at his sack #s, since that's the ONE thing you think a front 7 guy should have.
One thing about Leonard Williams; he collapses the pocket and pressures opposing quarterbacks. The sacks aren't there but numbers also don't lie ppl act as if Leo doesn't rank top 5 in QB hits. If Quinnen is the animal we all feel he is well then these QB hits and pressures will result in sacks and he could easily lead our team in sacks. Which was the beauty of Quinnen pick. He can help not only our DT/NT position as a major upgrade over McClendon but also improve the likes of Henry Anderson and especially Leonard Williams. Face it. Leo has been spotlighted by opposing O-Lineman over the past two years having Q is really going to unleash him a lot more. My pick is Jordan Jenkins for sacks only because I feel our D-Line will cause so much havoc and with Mosley leading our LB unit a guy like Jenkins coming off a 7.5 sack season is in great position to strike now surrounded by a lot more talent. Marcus Maye being healthy will give Jenkins extra opportunities for coverage sacks too. Who knows. But Anderson/Quinnen/Leo/Adams/Jenkins are 5 players who can at least all get after the QB and with Mosley in the middle directing traffic this could be fun.
https://www.pff.com/news/pro-leonar...the-jets-defense-to-a-whole-new-level-in-2019 "With 53 total pressures (six sacks, 16 hits, 31 hurries) on 509 pass-rush snaps last season, Williams had the 24th-best pass-rushing productivity rating (5.8) out of 121 qualifying interior defenders"
apparently "hidden production" means anything you do outside of sacks lol. i guess being useless outside of say 10 plays a year where you get a sack is better to some people then someone who plays in and out eevry down and has an impact. that 3rd place for tackles for no gain or a loss is a pretty amazing stat and goes a long way in forcing 2nd and 3rd and longs
One thing I've always loved about Leonard Williams is he plays and lives behind the l.o.s. Not only pressures QBs but is a monster against the run. Another thing I've always appreciated is that he's always demanded attention. He's a ball player. Opposing coaches game plan for him and opposing O-Lineman show him attention. He's multi talented. Quinnen/Leonard is going to be an awesome duo working alongside one another. Belly & N.E would love his ability only Jet fans don't.
great points indeed. people also seem to forget how henry anderson was a nobody player with 3 total sacks in his 4 year career on a bad defense that the colts traded to us for a 7th round pick (great trade by mac there BTW) and thanks to the attention leo demanded, anderson had a monster year for us with 7 sacks and 16 QB hits. more then his 3 year total with indy
Henry Anderson. Not sure we'll have anybody above 8 or so sacks though. Would be nice to have someone in double digits...
i'd be happier with 5 guys at 8-9 sacks then 1 guy at 16 honestly. I don't think we'll get either though
I rarely take part in Leonard Williams "sack numbers" because the topic of discussion is annoying. Because we never drafted Leonard Williams 6th overall as an A.) 4-3 speed rushing DE nor B.) An outside pass rushing OLB within a 3-4. We drafted him to fight within the trenches. The trenches have always been a man's game and Leonard Williams does more than just hold his own; he's able to line up across the D-Line and he fights within the trenches every single football game. Some look at "sacks" while I look at level of impact. He's a damn good football player and we're set on the D-Line because of him and now Quinnen who's blessed to be a rookie alongside of a now veteran leader in Leo. Leonard Williams and Quinnen Williams is a duo under G. Williams that will make noise and a duo that Jet fans should be excited to see develop.
By his metric, David Harris was a total bust, all he had was "hidden" production, can't believe he was extended. 5.5 sacks in his best year. COME ON, MAN!
Agree completely about Quinnen. It will open up Leonard and get him better matchups. Last year, Leonard was the one guy up front that opposing offenses had to account for.
I've ended up already loving the pick. I was one of the few who defended Darron Lee. I made a thread last year talking about McClendon being an underrated topic of discussion. The guy is an average jag. That's who Lee was MLBing behind of as our 3-4 NT. He's average at best but he's not good and far from great. I felt bad for Lee as I did Vilma being stuck behind the bust Robertson. I wish Lee had Quinnen as Mosley's about to. I also wish we seen Vilma behind Kris Jenkins. Quinnen Williams will help our IMLBs just as much if not more than Leonard Williams. There's a reason why we upgraded McClendon with a #3 overall pick. He can improve players around him while Steve could not. jmo.
