Who wants to spend our last 7th round pick on La'el Collins (OT)?

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  1. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    He can't reenter the draft next year so he either doesn't play football or sings with s team
     
  2. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    His agent said he would go back into the draft if he was picked after the 3rd round. He would have taken a financial bath being taken in the 7th round.

    I don't know if teams didn't draft him because of the investigation or out of fairness. But if it turns out he hasn't done anything wrong, it's only fair that he gets a shot at a fair deal as a FA.
     
  3. pclfan

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    The latest I heard was the NFL wouldn't allow him to go into the Supplemental Draft. And then also won't let him get drafted next season. His agent had said he would take a year off but I guess he can't re-enter the draft. His only option is to sign as a UFA. Possibly if exonerated and cleared by the cops they will reconsider. But I think the NFL after the AH trial wants to stay clear of these kinds of situations.
     
  4. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    Ya his agent said he would but he is not eligible to enter the 2016 draft there for he will sign somewhere as a free agent
     
  5. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    Assuming he's not guilty of anything, he is in a better position than if he was drafted in the 3rd round or later. Now he can weigh offers from any team.

    He was only going to sit out if he had gotten drafted late in the draft. The picks are slotted for $$$ and he would have gotten screwed.
     
  6. pclfan

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    Isn't there a money limit on salary of UFAs. Of course someone could (I guess) sign him to a low balled one year deal and then he could get his money if he plays well in year 2.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

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    I don't think so. I think teams can offer whatever they want. Some UDFAs only get a thousand or two to sign, others get $15-$20 thousand to sign, and their contracts vary. I really hope that if he is cleared that the Jets will get him. I think he would be Brick's successor next year and would help improve the OG spots this year.
     
  8. CJLang

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    Collins will need to sign the standard UFA contract, however it is a better deal than players draft after the 2nd round fo the most part.

    Ultimately, Collins can salvage the early portion of his career by signing the standard three-year deal as an undrafted rookie. While he’d be eligible for restricted free agency after three years, the numbers suggest that he’ll do fairly well, given the current amount and the historic growth of the restricted free agency tenders.
    If the tenders continue to increase at a rate of five percent annually, Collins could make more than all drafted players except the top 41 picks, based on three years of minimum salaries and the first-round tender for 2018. With the second-round tender, he’ll make more than all but 52 of the picks. With the original-round tender, he’ll make more than all but 65 of the picks.
    It’s a formula that demonstrates how little draft picks make beyond round one, relative to undrafted playera. That said, the balloon payment in year four requires the undrafted player to earn one of the three RFA tenders. But Collins already has a leg up on the guys who typically slide through seven rounds; he has skills that would have potentially made him a first-round pick but for the unusual circumstances that unfolded in the past few days.
    The analysis has one important caveat. Players taken in rounds three through seven are eligible for the proven performance escalators, which bumps their salary for the fourth year of their rookie deal into the range of $1.5 million. Still, Collins can end up getting a decent four-year rate of pay even as an undrafted player — and he’ll be eligible for a new contract after only two seasons. Drafted players have to wait for three.
    Also, and perhaps most importantly, Collins gets to pick his NFL team. No drafted player gets to do that.
    For now, none of this matters until he’s cleared. That process begins Monda
     
  9. JetsFan

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    I really liked our draft, but the different in a B+ and an A+ we could of had, was not selecting Collins in the 7th. Arguably the best OL in the draft and we just passed. Now he is cleared and not linked to the murder or the child she was carrying, and the steal of the draft for the Cowboys. Why our GM didn't just take a flier instead of drafting PS fodder is beyond me.
     
  10. DoubleDecker87

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    Lol
     
  11. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Jets burn 7th on him -> he walks.
     
  12. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    I saw him at a press conference today bragging about how the Cowboys will have the best offensive line in NFL history. It should be quite a matchup when the best defensive line (Jets) goes up against the best offensive line (Cowboys) on Dec. 19.
     
  13. JetsFan

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    He couldn't walk after all, they had already said he would not be allowed to enter next years draft. Plus, sitting out a year would only hurt him more. Even if we lost a 7th round pick, who really cares? The chance on Collins signing and playing was 10oX better than a 7th round pick starting any game this season.
     
  14. Zach

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    What the hell are you talking about?

    Do you even know why he was ineligible to enter next year's draft?
     
  15. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    They very well can have the best line ever if this kid is everything g he is suppose to be I'm guessing he is going to be playing g right guard or tackle

    They already had the best in the nfl last season
     
  16. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    This is completely wrong. The NFL said Collins would be ineligible for the 2016 draft if he pulled out of the 2015 draft. If he had been drafted in the 3rd-7th round this year he could have sat out the 2015 season and reentered the 2016 draft
     
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    31 other teams passed on him in the 7th round as well, for obvious reasons (the PR question mark, the not signing with a team question mark).
     
  18. MaximusD163

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    Collins told teams if they drafted him after the 3rd round, he wouldn't sign and then he'd re-enter the 2016 draft. There was no point in any team drafting him, it would have alienated the potential to sign him after the draft. There are rules that govern the contracts of both late round draft picks and undrafted free agents, but there is more flexibility in the signing bonus for those that go undrafted, as well as the fact that he can sign a much larger contract in one year from now as opposed to in 3. That's why Collins didn't want to be drafted and preferred to be a UDFA unless he was chosen in round 3 or higher.

    If he pulled out of the 2015 draft, he could not have entered the 2016 draft. If he was drafted but refused to sign, however, he could enter the 2016 draft if he chose. He chose to sign with a team willing to pay him a large signing bonus (by UDFA standards) and a promise of a better contract next year.
     

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