Who Stays, Ramsey or Brooks?

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  1. kinghenry89

    kinghenry89 New Member

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    Because, aside from having good mobility, Bollinger struggles with everything that a successful QB in the NFL needs. He doesn't have a very accurate arm, he often fails to correctly read defenses, he gives up on plays and moves out of the pocket too early and, because of last season's debacle, his teammates have no confidence in him to get the ball to them.
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    This sounds like a description of Ramsey to me except that he doesn't have good mobility, or move out of the pocket. What do you think Ramsey has done better than Bollinger?
     
  3. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Bollinger is a very young QB who was basically treated like cannon foder by the Jets coaching staff. Not only did he survive but with essential a coaching staff that had allready moved on and abonded the Jets he played hard showed courage and had some very bright moments. Unlike last year we have two rookies who can break big plays. Bollinger may very well be the best option until the OL shows that they can form a pocket and allow Clemens a little time to adjust.

    The second half of the season is much easier than the first half. It makes sense to get Clemens in against some of the weaker teams once the other rookies have shown they can play at an NFL level. Bollinger because of his mobility may actually be able to move the team against good Defenses.

    Chad is an accident waiting to happen and Ramsey for some reason can't release the football.
     
  4. kinghenry89

    kinghenry89 New Member

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    Ramsey can throw the ball harder and more accurately and he is better at reading defenses than Bollinger (read: the Jets can run more plays and will turn the ball over less.) He needs to learn how to get rid of the ball though, because he's gonna take a lot of sacks behind the Jets offensive line.
     
  5. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Bollinger did every bit as good as Ramsey did as a starter. There is no indication that Ramsey reads D's better or that he has the ability to be a top flight starter in the NFL. The fact that Gibbs unloaded him for a second day pick says it all about the guy.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    If I ever have to watch Ramsey dance around in the pocket in a starting capacity for the Jets, I will scream. Bollinger may have a weak arm, but he knows when to get rid of it and when to scramble. Ramsey is a deer in headlights.
     
  7. hiker

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    I just found this funny, in a sad sort of way. :sad:

    Keep Bollinger. Not like they will, but that's my vote (for what its worth)
     
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  8. Penning10

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    Worst...post..ever....

    So Brad Smith should be kept as a back-up QB based on his results and his ability to handle the blitz and bad o-line? When has he done any of that since he was drafted as a WR?

    Too many people on this board have a hard on for "Bolly". He's like a cult hero. Seriously what did he really accomplish last year? I know the deck was stacked against him but he's just not that good. I mean 60 year old Testaverde was given an oppportunity over him. Say what you want about the "Egg" but he's won playoff games...Bolly never will.
     
  9. Penning10

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    Also, anyone that calls Pennington noodle-arm is correct. But, a lot of those same people just love Bollinger. Bollinger's arm is no stronger than Pennington's. If you think that it is, then you just haven't been paying attention.
     
  10. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    You are correct that Bollinger has a sub par arm like Pennington. Unlike Pennington Bollinger is not shell shocked by pressure he can move, slide and aviod the rush.
     
  11. JetPulse

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    I know that you don't see too much Big12 football in New York so I'll let you in on some secrets.

    Big12=As close to proball as you can get in college competition.
    Brad at Mizzou=One of the most blitzed individuals in history.
    Him playing at wide receiver is fine with me.
    As an "emergency" back up.. again fine.
    Bagging on him about something other than an unproven throwing arm...
    Not fine.
    He has faced more blitzes in the last four years then Bollinger, Ramsey, and Pennington combined. And, kicked ass doing it.
     
  12. Green on Kauai

    Green on Kauai New Member

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    :rofl: :up:
     
  13. johnny

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    Wasn't that one of the knocks on Ramsey - that he couldn't read NFL defenses very well?
     
  14. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    one of the cult of chad, who doesn't know how to think, just how to parrot the rest of the mob. stale 2002 kool-aid is such a dangerous drink. :drunk: :lol:
     
  15. mr nyjet

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    smith could out-perform noodle arm right now, despite that.
    i'm aware of that. too bad the head coach is not. handcuffing the entire offense for one player is not smart . :sad:
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You're not allowed to call someone a parrot and then in then same sentence repeat that idiot Koolaid comment as if it were original. Sorry, your insults don't work when they work better on you. Cheers!
     
  17. fake_crs

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    Put me down as Bollinger stays, ramsey goes. Bollinger has outplayed Ramsey all camp and in game. Now, if Mangini is a man of his word and he really meant what he said then Brooks will be on the roster and Ramsey will be sent packing. I am not saying that Bollinger is a better QB than Ramsey. I am saying that Bollinger has hands down outplayed him during this QB compition.
     
  18. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    even a blind squirrel stumbles across an acorn once in a while. substitute the word chad for the word ramsey, and your inspirational thought is still valid.:eek:hmy: :breakdance: :rofl2: :beer:
     
  19. 10nyjets87

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    if i see one more game with brooks starting and his 80 yards of passing.. i will kill myself.
     
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  20. WhiteShoeWillis

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    harder, yes, more accurately, that's debatable. Better at reading defenses, hell no. This is his biggest problem he CAN'T seem to read a defense. IMO Bollinger has done far better than Ramsey in this category.
     

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