Who is the All-Time SECOND Best Jets QB?

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Who is the All-Time SECOND Best Jets QB?

  1. Richard Todd

    0.8%
  2. Ken O'Brien

    37.8%
  3. Vinny Testaverde

    13.4%
  4. Chad Pennington

    44.1%
  5. Mark Sanchez

    3.9%
  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I didn't stomp my feet whining about meaningless facts like you did.

    Ken led his high powered O's to 9 PPG the last 5 weeks of season, Ryan comes in and we score 28 on O(psst- 28 is slightly better than 9), he started in Cle and we get off to a great start, he leaves game and O is awful w/o him except for one Freeman long TD run.
     
  2. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    You keep taking the facts and twisting them to fit your assertion which you admitted you do not even believe in.

    Ken O'Brien was the starting QB. Ryan only came in due to injury.

    You even admitted that you do not think Ryan is better.

    What Ryan scored in Kansas City has nothing to do with Cleveland.

    In the first drive against Cleveland the Jets had a good game plan and Wesley Walker took a long pass to the house yet you give all of the credit to Ryan.

    Just get off of your high horse and give Ken O'Brien the respect that the man deserves already.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Ryan came in b/c Ken was playing poorly, O'Brien was benched. Ken got back in during the Cle game b/c Ryan got hurt.

    The Walker TD was a flea flicker, great throw and great catch.

    I don't have a high horse, I deal in reality. I know what Ken was, I know how overrated he is on here and I know what you guys would be saying about him if he played today.
     
  4. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    BTW, is the AFC East was so weak in 1985, how come both wild cards came out of that division?
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I don't know? maybe b/c only one other WC eligible team had a winning record? maybe b/c the Jets and Pats each got 4 wins from facing Ind/Buf?
     
  6. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    But that same season, the NFC had only one other eligible WC team with a winning record as well?
     
  7. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    In addition, that was the season that had that All-Time great Chicago Bears team. The one with only one loss, to a team in which Division?
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    the defending champ 49ers were the lowest seed in the NFC, they would have won the AFC. SF was 3-1 against AFC teams w/ lone loss being by 1 pt on the road at Denver. the other 3 games against AFC teams they won by an average of 22 PPG. The AFC was brutal back then.
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    on the road w/o their starting QB. Chi would have annihilated Miami if Miami beat NE in the title game to reach the SB.
     
  10. mezzavo

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    I feel you brother...but, I will say it again, it's all about the WINS!!!!!! Trent Dilfer was a statistical nightmare yet...guess what...the fuckin' guy wears a ring. He did enough to win. It's just the way it is. Sanchez did enough to WIN.

    See...every time I bring up the "eyeball" test I get laughed at. I use it when talking about Simms...he passes the eyeball test...Geno does not. However, if we are going on the "eyeball" test only then Chad Pennington was the best QB ever to don a NY Jets Jersey...and that INCLUDES our golden goose Namath. Period.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    actually Sanchez was much better than the statistics would indicate. this game is about making plays to win and while he wouldn't look pretty at times(and sometimes played awful) he was vital to our title game runs and Ken held back talented teams from making their own runs.
     
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    Currently the voting looks like this:

    "Yeah, I'm winning!"
    Pennington [​IMG] 42 votes - 44.2%


    Ken O'Brien [​IMG] 38 votes - 40.0%



    Testaverde [​IMG] 12 votes - 12.6%


    Sanchez [​IMG] 3 votes - 3.2%


    Richard Todd [​IMG] 0 votes - 0%
     
  13. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Right. That is why giving up on Sanchez was so upsetting. He has all the tools. Steps up in big moments, no stage was too big for him. His problem was stupid mistakes and turnovers. Something I still feel he can fix with support from a franchise and just by learning from experience. Sadly, he has not found that stable situation yet. Maybe it is coming this offseason. We will see.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Richard Todd needs a vote
     
  15. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I think he had that in Philly last year and I think he played well. will he stay there? will Philly move Foles? will he go to Buffalo and be w/ Rex? interesting offseason for him.
     
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    Why's that ncjunc-in-mourning?
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    like the way you get women, it would be a pity vote :D
     
  18. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    *crossing my fingers*

    if nothing else, this defense that has been terrible at creating turnovers will be sure to get a boost in that department with playing Sanchez/Rex twice a year!
     
  19. joe

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    lol, says the king of pity-potty
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    and we'll be get swept and watch Buffalo in the playoffs. That would suck.
     

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