You might be correct, but I think its extremely unrealistic that a President of Football Operations would have no say on the coach of the team. This is probably all a waste of time, since I dont think the Jets take this route. Keep in mind, while interviewing for the Executive Vice President role in Jacksonville, Coughlin was asked who he wanted as coach. And they hired him. I dont think the structure is typically as linear as everyone would like. The President would always have an influence in gigantic decisions like that.
I may be mistaken or naive, but traditionally, aside from Jerry Jones, Daniel Snyder, Leon Hess and the Johnsons, have owners or Presidents/VP of FO of other teams had a voice in whom the GM hired as HC? Would you want a job like that where your job evaluation was tied to someone you didn't get to hire? I sure as heck wouldn't. IMO that approach is just as dysfunctional as the mess we have here. Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think any quality GM candidate would accept the job here and quite possibly even refuse to interview if he wasn't going to be allowed to have the final say in who the new HC was.
I mean like I said, it just happened in Jacksonville with Tom Coughlin. He was hired as president and was asked who he wanted as coach. He said he liked Doug Marrone, who was eventually hired. I totally understand what you're saying, and I dont even necessarily disagree, but I dont think it is nearly as linear or simple as you're saying. I think the GM and president is more of a partnership than strictly boss-subordinate.
You easily could be correct, and it may not be as linear as I have always thought it was. A partnership makes much more sense to me. I think that for the situation to work, the two men would have to be on the same page and have very similar philosophies, ideas and approaches, or have clear, sound reasons for where they differ that the other could accept and respect. Just as when an owner hires a GM, I would think that after the VP of FO had asked the GM candidate about what he thinks the teams' needs are, how he evaluates the roster, what steps he thinks needs to be taken to fix the situation, what his overarching philosophy is, etc., that the next question would be who the GM candidate thinks would be the best candidates for the HC job.
We never learn. Why anyone should be retained when we went 5-11 or worse in 3 consecutive seasons is beyond me. Hire Harbaugh and let him bring in a new GM. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
One can argue (as I have done) that Macc was saving his own ass by trading up to get the best QB he could - he had no expectation that it would be Darnold. The desperation to make that trade up was fueled by his own knowledge that he screwed up by passing on Mahomes and Watson after having wasted a #2 on Hack. So yeah, I'll give him some credit for actually having the gumption to trade up, but it's not like it was heroic, it was rooted in self-preservation.
Yea, don't get me wrong he gets credit for all of his horrible picks and misses. Hackenberg was an abomination, and that pick could have cost us Mahomes as well. I mean we dont have time to go through all of his misses. He knew there were three (maybe four) QBs he liked, and he traded up to guarantee he received one of them. In my view, that is an excellent move, self-preservation or not. I've been on the fire Mac wagon for way longer than probably everyone here, but I can absolutely give credit where its due with this move.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...d-mike-maccagnan-have-been-at-odds-for-years/ The Jets tried to paint a picture of true harmony between the FO and Coaching Staff, now we find out what we already knew: THEY WERE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE!!! Both need to go, start fresh, new GM with 100 million to spend and a coaching staff that can work with them....
Here is the orginal article:https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/...s-jets-relationship-mehta-20181206-story.html I just read this on my way home. The article is penned by Manish so I would take it with a grain of salt. I felt like times he referenced "everyone in the building" was probably no more than 1-2 sources telling him about something. The only good thing I took from the article is that it seems that the higher ups know this organization structure is failing and hopefully they change it. No more GM and coach reporting separately to the owner. The org feels that Mac, unlike Bowles, can learn from his mistakes. May I ask how?? While I do think Mac with his own head coach would be an improvement over this mess, I still don't know how is going to build the team any better. This is really why Mac should go: "Only 33 percent of Maccagnan’s second-rounders are on an NFL roster. The league average for second-rounders from 2015-18: 92 percent. Only 50 percent of his third-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 84 percent. Only 50 percent of his fourth-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 82 percent. Only 50 percent of his fifth-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 75 percent. The Jets did, however, exceed the league averages with their sixth- and seventh-rounders."
You know honestly this sounds to me like the stuff that gets written when the team isn't doing well. And not a whisper or concern if the team wins. I think its pretty much agreed by all that Bowles isn't a big time head coach and probably needs a switch there. But that's enough (imho) no need to pile on or flame it any worse than it is. I suspect all head coaches and GMs may have differing opinions from time to time on draft picks, free agents, etc. Even the successful ones.
Only 30% percent of this and 50% of that, blah, blah blah, What the fuck did TB do with them? Zero freaking percent across the board. He even took existing talent drafted before Mac and destroy it. Like Richardson. He was the worst, most incompetent coach ever.
Richardson flopped pretty badly in Seattle, and he's okay but nothing great in Minnesota. So his struggles aren't all on Bowles.
Bowles was supposed to "do" something with players who can't stick ANYWHERE in the league? Bowles must go 100%. But the point here is Mac struggles to find NFL-caliber players even in the early rounds. That's very troubling.
