Great read, brought back some memories. But still would have stood pat. Well the last sentence said it all, jets would have been the big winner If Peyton came out. Oh, how that would have changed the landscape, multiple SBs. I will say Parcells missed on all our original picks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Remember the crazy contract that we gave Neil O'Donnel the year before. That is the real reason we didn't get Peyton. It was a parting gift from the Kotite era. I get that we didn't land pro bowlers and that is a bummer. But they were players we needed. You cant discount Ward and Johnson for 1998. Ward was our number 3 wideout that year. Johnson did a great job in relief of Curtis and was our kick returner. We weren't pro bowl but we were solid.
Agree, bottom line we were competitive 1st year and in championship game the next year. Funny how we got some value from picks from trades, but not our original ones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
One of my earliest Jets memories: I was like 10 years old watching that game with my dad. They lost to the Broncos but I was excited they were so close to the super bowl and told my dad "next year for sure"... My dad just looked at me and shook his head. I now know my dad realized in that moment he had doomed me to follow in his foot steps as a Jets fan.
Pace was the titanic 6-foot-7-inch, 320-pound product who was generally considered the finest college player available once quarterback Peyton Manning opted to remain at Tennessee for his senior season. Indeed, during the 1996 season, Dick Haley, the Jets' draft director, suggested that Pace could anchor the position for 10 years and then go to the Hall of Fame. At least Haley got something right! I was thinking that Becton sounds very similar to Pace, maybe we have HOF in the making. Let’s hope! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mr T really nailed it in Free Agency those 2 years...It was like he hit on everyone except Wayne Hunter.Dont forget Jason Taylor and Tomlinson who contributed big in the 2010 run.
I feel like Mac and Bowles first year we were a win now team...That was the last time this teams been taken serious...Its been downhill ever since the 10-6 year.
The primary thing to realize about where we are now is that it isn't an accident that we're here. The Jet's MO of using the draft poorly and then signing free agents to big contracts to fill the holes left by the poor draft strategy goes all the way back to 2001 when we traded several picks to move up for Santana Moss and signed Damien Robinson to a 5 yr $10M contract at FS, at the time a very substantial deal for a non-star. We were done with Robinson (like so many other players we chose to sign to rich deals) a couple of years later. The difference between that 2001 team and it's trade up in the 1st round and questionable free agent signing and later teams is that the Parcells player base aged out and so a strategy that was maybe break even in 2001 became just a sorry loser by 2011. Nonetheless we continued along that path right up through 2018 - with the tradeup for Darnold and 2019 with the big free agent splurge. The only way the Jets get off the rickety treadmill we're on is if we start acting like a professional NFL organization and leave the cotton candy marketing days behind. The Jets cannot win in today's NFL trying to win the off-season on the back pages. It just doesn't work and we have two decades of case studies in why it doesn't work behind us. Hopefully we don't have another decade of the same failed strategy ahead of us.
disagree there is no way 4 serviceable players are better than Orlando Pace. No way. Dedric award? Come on Farrior was so so for us...better for Pitt Parcells turned it around because he is a great coach who knew how to get the absolute most out of his players...he knew what he needed and brought in those kinds of guys. And he was a great motivator... to everyone liked him, but they respected him and p,aged hard for him that’s why he turned it around....he did that everywhere he went...which is why I consider him one of the best coaches in sports....very different than say, a Phil Jackson, who went from coaching Michael Jordan to Kobe Bryant....come on....not saying it’s easy to coach those types of egos either, but it’s nowhere near as difficult as building something up from scratch like Parcells has done Anyway...I think the move should have been to take the HOF left tackle. And like another poster said earlier, maybe the trade wasn’t terrible, and had we taken better players it would look better in hindsight, but I still believe Pace should have been the pick
In the 90s the first overall pick in the draft demanded one of the highest contracts on the team. This was one of the reasons they created the rookie contract rule. The top pick, and especially number 1 overall, in the draft was destroying teams salary caps. In fact Pace demanded and got the largest rookie contract in history up to that point. The year before the 96 draft we had just made O'Donnell the highest paid QB in the league. We were also carrying a massive contract for the previous years #1 overall with Keyshawn. If we could have dumped O'Donnells contract we could have signed Pace - or maybe even Manning would have came out. But we were locked into it for another year and nearly broke. Plus we already had Jumbo Eliot who was a solid player for us for the next six years - who was also paid a sizable contract. Drafting Pace would have been drafting BPA for a position where we didn't have a hole and were already paying a lot of money for. If we would have drafted Pace we would not have had the money to bring in most of the FA players that helped us during that era. People forget that not only did we play poorly under Kotite, he also mismanaged the cap in ridiculous ways leaving the next staff scraps to work with.
STILL would have been worth it to promise Manning we'll Draft him. DRAFT HIM. PAY HIM. Then Redshirt him while we field an AWFUL team in '97. Then start the Peyton Manning era in '98. But of course....Jets
So the Mangini and Herm Edwards years didn't happen, I guess. The Rex years were the only time the Jets adopted a "win now" attitude? What do you call the Parcells years??? He was all about winning now. He wasn't building for the future. He brought in a ton of old vets, and left the cap in pretty bad shape. They were hardly building around Sanchez, either. What high draft picks did they use on WR? RB? Even if we take TL, we'll still have a huge draft with two 1st round picks, a 2nd, two 3rds, a 4th, two 5ths, and three 6th round picks. By the time of the draft, we could have even more. With all the cap space we have, we will probably be pretty big players in FA. It isn't going to be a mini-rebuild either way. This team is going to be built practically from scratch.
I've been posting on Jets fan sites for over 20 years and no one else has ever claimed that. Produce the evidence (an article or link), or you're just making up BS to fit your agenda. The articles said that Archie Manning wanted a guarantee that Parcells would take Peyton #1. Parcells refused. End of story.
I have never seen one shred of evidence or anyone else claim that we didn't take Manning because we couldn't afford him. You need to back this up or stop saying it.
