Who said anything about cutting Brick? Clearly you don't know how these things work. You ever see Big Ben on the FA market? How many times has that fucker RESTRUCTURED his contract? You know better then this. The Steelers have restructured and added years to their players for seasons now. He's not getting more money and you aren't seeing how transactions are made in the NFL.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/dbrickashaw-ferguson/ Next offseason Brick will change his contract by adding more years and spreading out the remaining money on his deal. Unbelievable you say we'd cut him lol if he doesn't agree to the restructure he's cut and you go elsewhere. That's how the game is played
Please. I thought you were better than Vilma and some of the other jerks on here. Guess I was mistaken. I DO know how this works, and I DO SEE HOW TRANSACTIONS ARE MADE IN THE NFL. I mentioned cutting Brick, because I don't think he will take a pay cut and restructure, SO THE TEAM WOULD CUT HIM RATHER THAN PAY HIM $14.1 MILLION. I don't want to owe him any money past 2016 or want him protecting the QB's blind side past 2016, and may not even want him in 2016 depending upon how he plays this year. That's why I wanted his replacement secured in the draft this year. Amazing that you can't add and subtract, yet I'm the one who doesn't know how things work in the NFL with contracts. Right. And you think OGs and the RT position are more important than the LT position. Right. SMH
Well if you aren't a fan of Brick you have to deal with that on your own terms. I absolutely think it's worth exploring and we don't know what the outcome of that is. I've stated my case. Brick is durable and is still solid against speed rushers. That's a strong quality to have in this league. What we need to do is let him take care of the outside and allow a good guard and Mangold hold in the interior pass rush. Jets also need to solidify the ENTIRE right side of the line. It's a tall task in itself. 7M for a veteran solid LT would do the team some good going forward and I hope they keep Mangold as well. I'm not being a douche I'm just telling you how I see things. No one is adding money to the contract if he agrees restructures that's my side of my argument.
Mac's gotta get creative… thing about the free agent left tackle market is… it doesn't exist, or its all a bunch of backup types anyway. its a lot like the free agent QB market that way, nobody lets go of an effective LT so don't get your hopes up because a good LT is a FA in 2016, they'll be gone soon. if we're gonna have a viable stopgap we're probably gonna have to look internally which means dealing with Ferguson's contract as is or working something out. either that or pray we get a viable LT in round one or else trade assets to assure that end, which is undesirable for obvious reasons. the best time to rewrite D'bricks deal might be right freaking now rather than later. he's got about 29 million left to earn in cash over the next three years, about 20 million the next two if we're certain he's our starting LT this year and next rookie or no it may be wise to find a way to rewrite his deal, guarantee these years in exchange for a lower cap hit below 10 million, and disperse it over say the next 5 years. what I'm thinking: 2015: fully guaranteed, numbers remain as is. cap hit 11.6 million. 2016: fully guaranteed, base salary 5 million, 3 million dollar restructure bonus from previous deal. cap hit 8 million. 2017:3 million dollar base salary,2 million dollar roster bonus due a few days after the new league year, 1 million dollar restructure bonus from previous deal. cap hit 6 million. 2018-19: 3 million dollar base salary, 2 million dollar roster bonus due a few days after the new league year. cap hit 5 million
I guess the big factor here is how many years do you think Brick can play at a $10mm level. I would argue he's already overpaid relative to his play, and taking on risk of further decline in a division full of strong defensive lines is almost as bad as overpaying David Harris rather than paying our young stud in Wilkerson. Good teams don't overpay aging veterans who is seeing declines in ability. mangold is completely different as he is still top in the league and deserves every $ he gets. We need a replacement ASAP in my opinion.
D'brick, a scrub or hope we get lucky in the draft and then rely on a rookie. thats our options in 2016 at LT.
Think of how much that saves in the cap going forward? That would be an awesome pull given Brick continues his play and doesn't have a major decline. This would be a big year for him. If he gives up big plays I don't see him back and we look to replace him. Then there's the option if he has a good year.
Unless you're thinking he will be a quality starting LT for the next 5 years, why do this? That's Tanny's way of doing things and it doesn't work. Let's say he's the Jets' starting LT this season and his play declines precipitously. Then the Jets are stuck with a cap hit for him for the next 4 years for a player who's either not starting or no longer on the team. That's NOT the way to handle the cap.
2 years, my idea is that there are only 2 years guaranteed 2015 and 2016, the rest can be played by ear where 5 mil is saved at any point by cutting him. the point is to lower Brick's contract because we're not gonna get any worthwhile LT's in free agency and we need a stopgap one way or another at that position. with this we have more money next year, a starting LT with a reasonable cap hit as long as we need him, and more flexibility overall. the only leftovers are the prorate bonuses we're stuck with anyway, and the extra year that was guaranteed in 2016, but then we wanted him here anyway under this scenario.
And what happens if he has a good year? You're talking about him as if he's not even a quality NFL starter anymore and presuming that he's going to nose dive out of the league in a year. He's 32 years old, not 41. NFL offensive lineman generally play much deeper into their careers than other NFL players do, at which point they switch positions (routinely to right tackle and then into guard next to the next strongest offensive lineman). You reference someone being worse then me while I sit and wait for your rebuttal on guards in the NFL and Brick possibly transitioning into one. Do me a favor and don't mention me again until you would like to finish our discussion on the topic or admit you were. If you would like to be taught about combination blocking and zone blocking principals let me know and I'd be happy to explain it with diagrams. Until then, please don't mention me again.
The thing is if we restructure the deal he won't be getting 10M a year. He's not an elite level LT anymore, I'd say he's good right now. Restructuring will most certainly help us resign Wilkerson IMO. Steelers have been playing this game for much of the past decade with Big Ben, Troy P, Ike Taylor. Constant restructures. If Brick has a major decline then yes explore the opportunity of a new LT. That in itself is extremely hard and we have to address the right side of the line too. 1 man isn't making that entire offensive line.
ROFLMAO You really need to get over yourself. Who appointed you as the know-it-all expert on OL play? I don't do arrogant people like you favors, so put me on ignore, because when someone acts like you do they're gonna get called on it. This is my last response to you, because I'm doing what I should have doen earlier...putting your stupid, arrogant ass on permanent ignore.
brick is not being paid 14.1 mill next year, that is his cap hit ... hes set to make a little over 10 mill
man you just want to get rid of everyone on the team don't you? You hoping the Jets pay Russell Wilson 150M or something?
Unless Brick completely falls off a cliff, he'll likely get one more extension with the team before his career comes to an end. I'm sure they'll make the finances work so that it doesn't cut their hamstring if he declines rapidly.
