314 I feel for you brother,,,been right where you are sitting and it sucks ! You have read it before but I can tell you that you will have zero regrets walking away , I never looked back . Even when they went to the AFC Championship games if you had to buy tickets on stub hub or somewhere else and pay way over face value you will $till be way ahead by all the money you are saving on season tix, parking food and those effing preseason games they make you buy ! I know it sucks and it pains you but I will say it again,"zero regrets " here ps be prepared for some Jet emails and phone calls to get you back ,they are like the girl that you dumped that wants you back
This is precisely what Woody is afraid of. Long time PSL and STH holders walking away. Perhaps if the product on the field was better or at least showing potential. Potential is like the girl in the short skirt and low cut blouse that doesn't put out. At some point, you move on and it appears that's exactly what longtime fans are starting to do in droves. Gameday tickets are indeed cheaper than PSL's and STH's. It gives options and you don't feel obligated to go games because if you don't, your money is wasted. Woody can make this up by getting more corporate clients to buy these seat licenses but again, its a tough sell considering the history of the team since he bought it.
The Jets don't fuck you like a hot chick with a short skirt. The Jets fuck you like your new cellmate with the face tattoo that introduces himself to you by punching out all your front teeth so you can't bite his dick.
At least we've seen our team win playoff games, can't say the same about teams like the Lions or Bengals. Teams that honestly had QBs and arguably more talented teams. We've had some highs, but a lot of lows.
their plight is irrelevant to me. their plight is irrelevant to those shelling out thousands of dollars for shitty games in the mausoleum. cman, woody should have been afraid of that many years ago. when he decided to do what he did with the new mausoleum. he didn't care then and then he managed the team to a shit show and now he wants to care? the only ones left are the ardent jets fans who already went through all the bs he has put us through the past 10 years. they are the last of a dying breed, the rest already fucking left. the only things he has now are newer, younger fans who think football is "cool" you know the douches who go for the party. and opposing teams fans. next year will end up being a complete shit show, he will still sell tickets but not to the right folks and you wont end up seeing fans with banners and bags on their heads you will see more folks in the bar than the stadium.
Funny you reference douchey young fans going to the ballpark because it was "cool". I remember going to Wrigley Field several times in the mid 90's (Sosa/McGuire/Steroids) era. It was like a party there. Great looking Females everywhere drunk on beer. Guys trying to get laid. Outside of Wrigley there is quite the strip for bars and such. It was a great party and honestly, nobody gave a shit if the Cubs won or not. They were actually more concerned with Harry Caray singing at the 7th inning stretch. Now if Woody had half a brain, he would have set up something similar to get people to the stadium instead of simply the Jets. At least that way the remaining few non-corporate fans would have a reason to make the trek out there and fight the traffic home after a loss.
that was all they had for the past 60+ years, and it probably hurt them for many of those years as id assume it makes the owners care less about winning if they are still making money hand over fist. it really makes me sad, I don't even really like to go to the games anymore. I don't identify with the things that are going on. I just want to go watch football with other folks who understand the game.
Being a sports fan is a tribal thing. The reason Jets fans are Jets fans year in and year out is because they joined the tribe early on and found a common interest in the team. If you walk away from the Jets you're walking away from the tribe and it's not easy to find another tribe that's worth joining. The little things that you put up with as a member of the Jets tribe will seem like huge things elsewhere. Your patience for them will be limited. Other things that are wrong elsewhere will become apparent over time and irk you also. Gradually you'll just become less of a fan. If you walked away from one team why not walk away from the next choice after a bad year or two? What really binds you to NFL football in the first place? Will you typically turn on a game between two mediocre teams that you don't root for just to watch football? All of this is aside from the problem that fantasy football represents. Fantasy football actually loosens the bond between fans and teams and reinforces the bond between fans and players, but only a bit since you don't have the same players every year. A fantasy football fan *will* turn on a game between two mediocre teams he does not root for if he has a few players or a key player in the game. Anyway, back to the main question: if you've been a Jets fan for 10 years or longer there's no point in walking away to another team. You're not going to be happier in the long run and odds are you'll be less of a football fan before long. If you're a new Jets fan? Run for your life. Anywhere you can find.
I can honestly say as a fan who has no allegiance via location I could support anyone. But I chose the Jets a long time ago, way back in the mid 80's and O'brien was my favorite player. We were not always good but we had some star players. Then the 90's came. That was bad. Until we had the 12-4 season. That was the first highlight of my Jets supporting time. Even Vinny proved us all wrong. That wonderful Spread Offence. It could easily have been our year. Then a massive gap. Some playoffs here and there of 9-7 seasons. And it was not until Rex came that I enjoyed it all again. I liked his swagger, I liked that he got emotional. I liked that we had a good defence. Then Idzik run him out by not giving him the tools. So maybe 3-4 good seasons since I started supporting the Jets. The best time under Parcells and Rex, Very similar coaches. They get in your face and demand something. They are emotional. I would have Rex back in a heart beat over Bowles and his soft pussy demanour. At least we had a D under Rex. Currently we have no offence and no Defence.
I am a guy who really just enjoys football. im watching Youngstown st. vs jmu right now. I watch high school games and youth games whenever I can. I really really enjoy the sport. I have found htat I just care less and less about the jets. if I miss a game it doesn't really bother me, I don't bother to dvr them and don't have any interest in going anymore. they are still my team, but the bullshit they have put me through the past 10 years has made me say well I am not going to invest too much of my passion in them and I am not going to invest a red fucking cent of money in them. maybe its me, but its not like it was when I became a fan watching and loving to watch freeman mcneil.
Losing interest in your team is a normal thing when they blow chunks over a period of years. It's moving to another team that is likely to cause a loss of interest in the sport itself. I lost interest in the Jets in 95 and 96. I slept through games on my couch and there were game days when I was doing something else and not bothered about missing the game. Then Parcells got hired and my interest came back and I probably did not sleep through another game until 2012 or so. It bothered me when I had to miss a game over that span. Last year I could take the Jets or leave them. There were so many questionable decisions that went into the makeup of the 2016 roster that I just stopped posting because I'd already gone through all the arguments (roster is old, we're overpaying defensive stars, we're making project picks in the draft and trading up to do so, etc) over the years and was tired of repeating myself ad nauseum. Then I found myself skipping games or tuning in late in the game just to see what was happening. It was a really ugly season to watch and the ugliness was all predictable. I'm hoping the Jets put a plan in place that brings me back to full awareness of the team. Same old stuff is getting old. If they blow the draft again and sign a bunch of mid-prime free agents, well that's good for maybe 9-7 next year and then we're back to where we are right now again in a hurry. If they draft well and cut some of the dead wood they could go 1-15 next year and I'd spend most of the season rooting for them to get the #1 pick and finally get their QB.
its been easier for me to lose interest the past few years as my kid plays on sundays for September, October and all of November this year. I agree with what you are saying.
Well, to be fair Wrigley has the advantage of location. They're on the north side of Chicago with Northwestern and Univ Chicago within easy driving range and mass transit. Metlife otoh, is in the middle of Swampland, NJ. Now if Woody had gotten the WSS built, I think we'd be having a different conversation today.
yes definitely, it would still have driven the old time fans out, to an even larger extent probably as ticket pricing and psls would have been more than they ended up being. but there would be tons more people willing to go party than you get in the swamp. even if they had put together a decent plan for the mall thing and it had actually become successful and they had mass transit that didn't involve transfers. but many many things were done improperly in this new stadium plan.
I'm right there with a lot of you guys on this. Been rooting for the Jets for just about 30 years now, and while that's not as long as some here, I totally understand the feeling of having them suck the life out of you. I've found myself not being able to stay awake during the games at all this year, and I don't think it was until the first New England game that I managed to stay awake for an entire game. Between coaching football during the week, which takes up most evenings, and then football on Saturday and Sunday, I had made the decision a while ago that Saturday would be my day off from football during the week in the fall, since I didn't want to give up Sundays watching the Jets. I might be rethinking that heading into the 2017 season, especially if Woody and company continue to look uninterested in putting a competitive product on the field.
The WSS was never going to happen. The Real Estate business in NYC is so cutthroat and this would have been one of the biggest deals in NYC history if it happened. Then you had the community boards which really didn't want a stadium nearby, because stadiums near residential areas always cause problems for residents in the end. You had MSG which didn't want another major sports venue or concert hall anywhere near Midtown. The stadium would have had to be in a really depressed area with no influential community boards anywhere near it to get local support. The property it would have been built on is still mostly undeveloped railyards and likely will be in perpetuity unless some Mayor and Governor get together and really ride the proposition hard.
I've been a Jets fan since they were the Titans, and as old as that makes me, I'm not likely to see them win another SB in my lifetime. That makes a compelling case for me to find another team to root for, but of course it's not just about rooting for a winner is it? There is no way I could develop any interest in a new team. I wish I could, but I know I can't. I'm stuck with them, for better or worse. That said, it doesn't mean I have to stay hyper-focused on them and drive my blood pressure up. I'll simply pay less attention to them until they show me more attention is warranted. There's no rule that says you have to watch all the games, and read all the stuff written about them. I hope some ay they win before I die, but I'm not going to put myself in a early grave over them either.
I think the worst thing that could happen to Jets fans this winter is that the Jets just do business as usual and sign a few free agents to fill some of the glaring needs and approach the draft like it's a random event in which they need to prove they're geniuses instead of just taking solid players to build the team with. The Jets almost always use one of their first 3 picks on somebody that makes you go "WTF was that?" 2006 Kellen Clemens was coming off of a broken leg but the Jets thought he was 2nd round material. 2007 They traded up in both the 1st and 2nd rounds and got Revis and Harris but at a high cost even given the value in the players. 2008 They took Gholston on the 6, which may have been unavoidable given the draftboard but then they traded back into the 1st round to take Dustin Keller for Favre. 2009 They traded up for Mark Sanchez which *was* unavoidable given Favre's retirement. However that left them with just 3 picks. 2010 They took Vlad Ducasse from ZooMass in the 2nd, which was a double-WTF pick. They only had 4 picks that year. 2011 No second round pick. The Jets made one second round pick from 2008 to 2011 and it was Vlad Ducasse from one of the weakest college programs in Division 1 football. 2012 Quinton Coples, Stephen Hill, DeMario Davis. Round 1 - Strike 1, Round 2 - Strike 2, Round 3 - Strike 3 and yer out Mike Tannenbaum! 2013 Dee Milliner was a bust but a bust a lot of teams would have taken on the 9 pick. Sheldon Richardson is one of those whackadoodle talents that makes GM's shoot themselves. Geno Smith was almost a mercy pick, except the NY press and fans have no mercy for a mediocre QB on the Jets. 2014 Calvin Pryor came in as almost a tweener because he's a pure in the box strong safety and Rex never uses those guys that way. Bowles used him fine in 2015 then had him in centerfield a lot in 2016 probably because the CB's were so bad. Jace Amaro was a disastrous pick, probably the least athletic guy the Jets have selected all time. He made Vlad Ducasse look like a ballerina by comparison. Dexter McDougle was a TWICE injured player who had lost most of his senior season to a bad injury. I guess Idzik thought he'd gotten it out of his system or something. 2015 The first pick was a gimme and the Jets took him. The next two are still question marks, like so many other high Jets picks of recent years. 2016 The first pick was a tweener who has speed but not the strength to play in the middle and whose coverage skills were apparently overstated by all the scouting reports. The second pick was a QB whose college performance suggested that he really hadn't learned to not run with scissors yet. Hopefully something comes out of this pick other than getting the GM fired. Seriously, how can you look at the Jets drafts since 2006 and not expect them to have a thin roster without enough talent to win consistently at the NFL level? All the free agent pickups have been pure self defense but signing a lot of free agents is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Good luck with that after the element of surprise is gone.
