What you think WILL happen, Not What you want to happen in the Draft

Carpenter won't be there at 35 and unless Howard falls nobody good enough to start will be there at 35. We won't take Brick and Mangold first two picks, the fan reaction would be too bad.

 

I think our first two rounds will be:

4. Matt Leinart, QB, USC--If Young goes 3 and he is on the board, we will take him and all the Jet fans at the draft will be chanting "We want Leinart" or something like that. If Leinart goes three, I think we pick Brick.

29. Bobby Carpenter, OLB, OSU--Perfect guy to start at OLB in the 3-4, takes Hobson's job and replaces some of the pass rush lost in the Abe trade

35. Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn--Fills our RT need and is a good pick there

After that, it's pretty much a crapshoot. I would be happy with the draft above, it would fill our two biggest needs and get us a franchise quarterback.

 

I've been reading that Carpenter may be slipping. That his consistency is in question.

 

Looks pretty good, provided Leinart slips. But if DWilliams is there at 29 he is a player we simply cannot pass up on

Even tho Id rather go Gilles in the 2nd and Whitworth in the 3rd I wouldnt mind your way

 

Agreed. I really have shyed away from D'Brick because having 2 great pass blocking tackles that can't run block for shit in Jones and D'Brick will just lead to us being unable to run the football. 1028 has sold me that Vernon Davis is the best pick if Mario Williams doesn't fall because he will be a playmaker that can play TE, WR, and the position that is slowly on the rise - H-Back. Although I think Hawk is the 4th best player in this draft behind Bush, Williams, Leinart, Hawk is not a good fit in our system and we need 3-4 OLBs not more 3-4 ILBs like the undersized Hawk would have to be. Vernon Davis is the 5th most valuable player in this draft and fills the need of a playmaker so I believe that if Super Mario is off the board Davis will be in the green in white at pick #4.

 

Good point. Can you imagine Davis at hback hmy: The matchup problems he can create are enormous.

I have nothing against Hawk...IMO he is the surest thing in the draft, bar none. But hed come at the cost of one of our existing ILBs, and as it stands, I am VERY satisfied with that position. Barton and Vilma will make a superb tandem...but right now finding that all elusive pass rushing OLB is what we need to do...

 

I definetly agree with you on that one, I would be THRILLED if Williams is there at 29 but I think he will go a little bit higher.

 

I do have a question for you and all the other Andrew Whitworth lovers... if he's good enough to start right away next year why do you believe he's going to last until the third round? If he is better then O'Callaghan and Colledge that means he can easily be the 5th or 6th lineman taken. I think if McNeill is there at 35 we have to take him because we cannot risk Whitworth falling to the 3rd round.

 

Hes good enough to start right away, but thats not to say hell be dominant. He can fill the gap and probably provide us with an immediate upgrade, but he will experience his growing pains. By next year he should be a solid starter and the year after that begin to reach his potential. Kind of similar to the path McKenzie took (although KMac didnt start every game his rookie year). The reason I think hell fall is not so much error in his game, but just the overall talent in this draft. LB, DB, TE, OT, and other positions are so deep, that theres a good chance he could fall. I see him as a late 2nd/early 3rd...if we feel so inclined I wouldnt mind trading up into the bottom of the 2nd for him. I guess I just feel comfortable going BPA, and at 35 Id rather go with Gilles, who I view as a superior prospect to McNeill anyhow. But I do see your point, and it is a potential problem, but on that note, how can you be sure McNeill will be there? I see TB in the first taking a HARD look at him...so again, Id advocate taking Gilles in the 2nd (almost guaranteed hell be there), and hopefully Whitworth in the 3rd

 

4. Mario
29. Best RB available (DeAngelo, Maroney, Addai, White in that order)
35. McNeil (or best RT available if he is off the board)

 

I think the jets wont draft davis. To high of a pick to waste on on a te no matte how good he might be

 

I just don't see how we possibly draft a qb at 4. I just can't imagine it. It would be way too much money tied up in one position and would force us to cut pennington in 2007. Doesn't make any sense.

Seems like with every single position you could draft, people are sitting there saying, "that's too high to take an x" -- "x" being OT,RB, LB, DE, CB, etc... seems like the only ok positions to draft are considered to be QB and DE, or RB (if you're as good as bush). Anyway, I bet they're hoping that Leinart falls to them so that they can get maximum value for him in a trade down. That could very well happen -- in fantasy land -- forget about it because tennessee is taking leinart: end of story.

 

Trying to get into the mind of the Jets. Mike T. "Oh my god we have no Offensive line sure we can adress that in the latter rounds but we don't want to end up with a texans O line. The best prospect in this draft could fall right into our laps in D'Brickashaw Ferguson. Lets hand the card in." Eric Mangini "Yeah, dawg, and you need to replace your fish."

 

this would be my order of most important needs:
Tackle/Guard
Runningback
Some sort of D-Lineman/ LB (Hybrid)
Quarterback
Cornerback/ Safety
Wide Reciever/ Special Teamer

Though recently we have increased the depth on the oline, I believe it will be the Jets prioorty, though they may solve it, by using three or more picks on the oline, than going with DBrick, and trying to pick someone else up that can be a good offensive weapon with the number 4. Either way I think we def have to come away with a runningback on 1st day, maybe our comp pick. A QB would be nice, but that can probably wait till atleast the fourth round. If you look at the roster were pretty set with every position. Runningback and Quarterback though could become a huge problem if Penny doesn't pan out (thankfully we atleast got someone, with Ramsey) and Curtis will probbaly be okay, but if Blaylock doesn't get enough carries to spell him, or he or Houston can't play, than we could be in trouble. that being said, I would like to see DBrick and Lawson for the 1st round.

 

D'Brick and Mario Williams make the most sense at 4...if we trade down to 7 if Matt Leinart falls to 4 we could get either Brick, Hawk or Ngata...MAYBE Cutler

 

This is how I think it's going to go:

1. Bush to the Texans.

It'd be a better move for them to trade down a slot and get Mario Williams but there's no way the Saints trade-up for Bush, not with McAlister already signed to a LTD.

2. Williams to the Saints.

Best defensive player in the draft and the Saints are going to take him even though they have two fairly decent ends in Will Smith and Charles Grant. They'll probably get some offers for the pick and for Williams after the fact, but they will sit tight and hold on to what they have.

3. Vince Young to the Titans.

There are four teams in the Vince Young sweepstakes right now with the Titans in the catbird seat. The Jets, Raiders and Broncos are all interested also but Tennessee holds the Ace here. The previous Jet's regime would likely have overpaid to move up a slot or two and take him but this crew will just sit tight and wait out the pick.

4. Raiders take Leinart after trading up with the Jets.

The Raiders think this is a two QB draft with Young and Leinart both gone by the 7. They bite the bullet and give up the 7, 38 and 69 for the 4 and the 97. The Jets want Ferguson, but not badly enough to stop them from picking up another quality pick in the second round.

5. Packers take A.J Hawk.

In terms of need it's a toss-up between Hawk and Michael Huff. Hawk is the best player of the two by a slim margin and the rebuilding Packers decide to solidify their LB corps with a blue-chipper in the middle.

6. Lions take Jay Cutler after trading up with the 49ers.

The 49ers were in a pickle on this pick. They traded up to the 6 to do one of two things: either take A.J. Hawk or trade up further for Mario Williams. Neither of those possibilities worked out and the best available players left, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Michael Huff and Vernon Davis are at non-need positions. They consider taking Davis but the must-take offer from the Lions (9 and 40 for 6 and 217) comes in a hurry and they take it. Matt Millen, the worst GM in recent memory, makes another big blunder and gives up value in the deal to get his guy, who he thinks the Jets are going to take on the next pick. He'll be fired by the end of the season. I'd change my nick to Mi11en5ux now except it would only have a shelf life of one season.

7. The Jets take Ferguson on the 7.

The gamble to trade down works brilliantly. They knew the Packers and the 49ers were not looking for offensive line help, the only variable they did not control was who the 49ers trade partner would be. The previous regime would have traded up to the 2 to get Ferguson or Young giving up real value in return. This crew trades down, gets one of their players and also picks up extra value.

That's how I see the first 7 working out. It's nice to be an optimist again.

 

Haha...I was just thinking, perhaps you should change your name to Tannen64um5ux lol

 

Well if they take Cutler on the 4 and we have another miserable season I'll start thinking about it.

Seriously, I gave Bradway two full seasons and drafts before I formed a negative opinion of him. It was the Jetskins debacle followed by the trade-up for D-Rob that made me realize that he had no clue about building and maintaining a team.

I figure the Jets have another 6-10 in them before we can start to look at regaining our footing. So Tangini gets at least a couple of seasons grace before I turn into fine whine.

 

Guys I cant see the Saints taking Mario they have 2 ends already