What Would It Cost To Move To #2 or #1 Overall?

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  1. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Who's going to trade for an injury prone TE with an expiring contract and thoughts of retirement?
     
  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Belichick is pretty good at moving away from players before they hit the decline. Brady will be 41 when the season starts so it's more and more likely he starts to hit the downside any season now. They already moved Cooks, rumor has Gronk being trade bait, Dion Lewis is gone too. They'll have Edleman and Amendola but the shelves will be pretty bare on the offensive playmaker side for the Pats this year with an aging Brady.

    I'm not saying it's going to happen, I'm saying I wouldn't be shocked if it did. Especially if they think they see a "can't miss" QB prospect within reach.
     
  3. LF911SC

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    Ignores the question, why now? If he was good at getting rid of players right before the decline, why didn't he do this after last season when he still would have Garoppalo? Who would you rather have Garoppalo and the picks or no picks, Brady and a 5-10 pick? To use on am unknown who may not be closer to what Garoppalo is
     
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  4. TurkJetFan

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    the pats or bills are top candidates IMO. It will take a couple of firsts and a 3rd etc IMO.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    No way do the pats or bills have what it takes to get to 1 or..figure at least 3 #1s and a 2 minimum just to get to 2. Both may have 2 #1s but they are crappy #1s.

    Here's a couple of links..and those teams had much higher picks to begin with and they were only going to #2.

    https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story...ck-robert-griffin-iii-washington-bound-030912

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-now-have-no-2-pick-after-blockbuster-trade-with-browns/

    And it's not just the 4 QBs people might want to move up for but there is also potential HOF RB, edge risher and OG who could play LT to consider..so if you are not in the top 7 to start with I wouldn't think it would be easy at all to get one of those top picks.
     
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  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Giants are going to take a QB not named Allen. It's the result that most screws the Jets so it has to be the choice.
     
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    They are more than welcome to take Jackson at 2. :D
     
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  8. GasedAndConfused

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    if we are to believe the rumors (which we shouldn't) browns are picking between allen and darnold. Giants only love darnold and won't take a different QB at 2.

    if that is true then the top 2 picks should be
    1) allen
    2) darnold

    or

    1) darnold
    2) barkely/chubb or another non QB

    either scenario lands us rosen
     
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  9. slimjasi

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    haha, it's always crazy around draft time. This year, it's particularly bad because of how juiced everyone is over picking #3.

    If I could make one change to the NFL, it wouldn't be a rule change, or exiling the New England Patriots, or anything cool like that. It would honestly just be to move the draft up by one month. I just can't take some of this bullshit, anymore.
     
  10. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    A decade from now looking back, moving Garoppalo may end up being the biggest mistake BB ever made. Based on what we know I suspect his hand was forced on that. Maybe JG demanded a trade or a monster contract behind closed doors. It would have taken balls of steel to trade Brady mid season and it would have been foolish to pay a backup like a top starter.

    If he made one mistake it doesn't mean he should make another. If his opinion is that it's time, he could do it.

    Again, not something I expect, just wouldn't be shocked.
     
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  11. slimjasi

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    Totally depends on where they are coming from.

    A lot of people are talking about the possibility of Buffalo going up to #2, but if you look at what other teams have given up in recent years from much better starting points than #12 to go up and get a QB, the price would be simply insane. They would have to do it in two stages, and even then, they would basically have to blow all of their draft capital to make it happen.

    Since we can be virtually certain that the Browns aren't trading their pick, the only real discussion to be had pertains to the Giants. I'm still worried that the Giants will take a QB, but if they don't, a trade is certainly possible.
     
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    Yeah, see, because of this, I actually think it could help his legacy. He knew what he had in JG.
     
  13. slimjasi

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    The problem is that Kraft owns the team, not BB.
     
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  14. TonyFtLaud

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    You missed it, he suggested trading Brady to move up to one, so would only have a rookie QB.
     
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    Amendola is on the Dolphins , but the Patriots are pretty solid at WR, Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Cordarrelle Patterson, Kenny Britt, Malcolm Mitchell , Phillip Dorsett, and Jordan Matthews , plus a few other depth types. Brady would refuse a trade to the Browns so that scenario is dead. Gronk is a great TE , but the Patriots have never struggled when he has been out of the line up so he could be traded.
     
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    what i dont understand is how the media talks about buffalo and patriots have easy the ammunition to move up to #2 , while the Jets paid 3 second rounds just to move 3 spots , this media guys dont realize the value of the #2 overall pick.
     
  17. STARoSCREAM

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    you're probably right, but if Buffalo offer both its #1's this year and a #1 next year AND another conditional pick, that may do it
     
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  18. LF911SC

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    Wouldn't work for me. At two you're locked into a starter type player. This year could be a QB, RB. DE/LB or OL. With the Bills 2 1st rounders this year and one next there are no guarantees and may not be any real options of positions draftable at those lower picks
     
  19. TonyFtLaud

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    The Bills have the draft capital to Mone up further in the draft. They can use their later 1st, later 2 and later 3 to get to 5-7. Then they would use the 5-7 their 2 & 3rd along with next year's 1st and say 3rd to get to 2 , similar to how the Eagles landed Wentz. The gianGi then would be likely to have a chance to take Allen or another impact player, with multiple additional picks this year and next.
     
  20. jcass10

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    For the record, I dont think the 1st or 2nd pick are even remotely for sale. I think Darnold is going 1, and Rosen is going 2.

    I think for the Jets to move up to 1, it would cost next years one and probably a third, if it were for sale.

    For the Pats to move up, it would take a plethora of picks, and they would have to make a chain of picks, because I dont think either team wants to move back to the mid 20's.
     

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