What would Fournette do for this offense?

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  1. BamaDoc

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    I worry about his health. He is a stud but if he can't make it through a college season so I worry the pro season length will be even more of a problem. Also he will test amazing but you said you were a Bama fan. When there were no big holes and no qb threat he was completely stopped by Alabama's defense. No holes and no qb threat kinda sounds like here.
     
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  2. Don

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    He may not make it through camp..or do you not believe what they say about him?
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    With a decent QB this guy could be a star but if they stack the box figuring we have nobody who can throw anyway he may only be average.
     
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    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    Biggest joke of a QB is a bit extreme.
     
  5. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    Do I believe what an unnamed source may have said or not said about him? No.
     
  6. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    My biggest problem with Fournette is that he doesn't do well against Bama who many consider to be a pro ready defense. What's going to happen when he gets to the NFL?
     
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    Hopefully not sit out his rookie season like the other prospect who didn't do well against pro ready defenses. :p
     
  8. All Gas No Shake

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    every offensive player under les miles didn't do well against alabama
     
  9. JethroTull

    JethroTull 2018 Least Knowledgeable Poster

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    Fournette would be a great pick..... In 1995. The NFL is a passing league now and first round picks should only be used on players who can either augment a passing game or defend a passing game.

    Running Backs, ILB's, and Big run stuffing dlineman are not how you win anymore. Guys like Rueben Foster and Leonard Fournette are great players but they aren't going to help you beat the New England Patriots.
     
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  10. TonyFtLaud

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    Fournett would do the same as Cook, just less of it. Cook is a better Reciever, better pass blocker, a more complete player . Watch their games vs Florida one week apart. LSU plays for The SEC Championship with a win , FSU has nothing but pride on the line. Compare them VS a common opponent and decide who is better.
     
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    If we take a running back at 6 , Forte's role should be reduced. Powell and Cook/Fournett would split the workload with Forte coming in to spell them. With Fournett , your looking at a similar backfield as we has with Ivory and Powell. With Cook your looking at a backfield more like Atlanta has With Devote Freeman and Tevin Coleman , though Cook is many times better than Freeman. Forte is at the end of his career but if we did draft a young RB, maybe Forte could be traded for a late round pick.
    Bowles is the wild card here. We know he loves his vets and it's possible that Forte gets 90℅ of the snaps while Powell River gets a limited workload until Forte is injured. Then Powell is run into the ground until injured. Then the rookie will STILL sit while an injured Forte and Powell limp through the rest of the season because as we all know. The injured, underperforming, vet gives us the best chance to win.
     
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    I agree with most of what you said. The versitile RB is in vouge today. Freeman is a poor man's Cook.
    Fournett is very similar to Jeremy Hill. Same school,system. Fournett has a little more speed, Hill better hands. Their production at LSU is nearly identical though Hill fared better his final season than Fournett did ,due to injury.
    White had 14 catches, but 20 points.
     
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  13. Frenbar

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    The difference is that Zeke was running behind one of the best, if not the best, offensive lines in football. The Jets don't even know who half of the OL is going to be next year. I don't care if the Jets could draft Jim Brown this year, with a dog shit OL and no QB he wouldn't help.
     
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  14. Beki

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    Ohh yeah, we don't have LT and RT, franchise QB, but let's draft a RB behind Forte and Powell, what a fucking good idea seriously...
    Our secondary is a complete mess, but we need Fournette, yeah...
     
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    Here's my worry about 4NET

    While I think he's the best pure runner in this draft, I feel like he's not the best complete back in this class. Yes, I feel he maybe the better runner out of him and Zeke for example, but he's not the pass blocker, not the pass catcher that Zeke OR Cook is for that matter.

    So my question is, if you want essentially a 2 down back, is his talent of being the best runner worth it? Is Cook worthy of being the #6 pick? I'm not sure the answers to these questions right now for the Jets. What I do know, is this RB class is quite deep...so you could potentially grab your RB in round 2, 3 or 4 that can step in right away.

    Joe Mixon has similar abilities to a Cook, not as explosive but he's dangerous...

    A Kareem Hunt maybe a Powell type back, receiving, and can block. I think that's the type of back(S) the Jets maybe looking for here.
     
  16. Noam

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    The thing about Fournette is he is a 3 down complete back. He can block and is very dangerous as a reciever and he hits people. He is arguably a better prospect than Peterson because of his receiving skills. If you're going to draft Fournatte you need to build the offense around him and run a power running game for the next 10 years. He would have been perfect for Rex's ground and pound.

    But the OP is right draft Fournette and he simply does not come off the field. Powells role as a 3rd down back is gone and Forte will also get limited reps.
     
  17. All Gas No Shake

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    there is so much wrong in this post

    jeremy hill had 1582 scrimmage yards in his best year, fournette had 2206. how is that nearly identical?

    fournette had more receptions for more yards, so I don't know how you surmised that hill has better hands

    hill ran 4.66 at the combine, fournette is going to run in the 4.46 range ... that's a lot more than "a little more speed"

    i keep seeing people misrepresenting fournette to build up cook and i don't understand why
     
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  18. ColoradoContrails

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    One thing the Jets have lacked for a long time is a legitimate, game-breaking RB. By the time they got LT, he was no longer that kind of back. A true, game-breaking RB would help this offense tremendously by taking pressure off the QB, giving him another receiver, and helping the OL because the defense wouldn't be able to pin their ears back on every down. Form what I've seen and heard so far, I think Cook could be the best fit as his receiving and pass blocking skills are excellent in addition to his running ability. Fournette may be the best true runner, and if he's that good, that might be all he needs to be - Jim Brown wasn't renowned for his receiving skills, but he made an above average QB into a champion. I think either one would be a great pick at #6, but I lean towards Cook.

    I did watch some film analysis of Mixon, and he's very good, but his pass blocking skills aren't very good, and of course there's the bad rep. I haven't seen or heard much of the other top RBs, but its possible they could find a guy like Le Veon Bell in a later round, but like, Prescott, that's really a long shot.

    One thing's for sure, Forte and Powell aren't good enough to take the pressure off whoever the QB winds up being.
     
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  19. ColoradoContrails

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    Okay, I watched this comparison analysis:

    http://www.catscratchreader.com/2017/2/16/14634834/2017-nfl-draft-potential-panther-malik-mcdowell

    of Fournette vs. Cook, and I have to say, I'm really torn. Fournette is truly a freak. As the comparison points out, while some people say he's comparable to Adrian Peterson, the reviewer says he's actually better than AD because of his pass-catching and pass blocking abilities. I honestly don't know how the Jets could pass up a guy like that. The reviewer likes Cook a lot too, and as a "consolation prize", I wouldn't cry, but at this point, I think I'm back to liking Fournette at #6.
     
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