There's no way you can answer that question right now. There are way too many different scenarios that can come up during the season that could change or make the decision.
Mangini deserved to be fired on the Gholston pick alone. When you fubar something that big you gotta bounce.
If they keep a coach who finishes without a winning record 4 years in a row they will be approaching the incompetence level that we saw in the 90s. There is not a chance he should keep his job if they finish 6-10. I will be furious. He's got to make the playoffs
I agree, but like others said, it depends on the circumstance. If the team is trending up, but misses the playoffs at 8-8 or 9-7 you might have a tough time breaking everything up. If the team looks lost, then easily you can make a switch. Jets history-wise, Rex has 4 playoff wins, 2 winning seasons, 2 (8-8) seasons and a disastrous season where they still went (6-10). Jets fans have seen much worse. So it really is a tough call. Again, hopefully the Jets make the playoffs and a decision like this is not even worth worrying about.
I think the team is better than last year, but the schedule is brutal. I'd lean against them making it and I think Idzik pulls the trigger if they don't make it. IT would really be a shame.
I think how they got to whatever record they end up at, is more important than the record itself. For example, if we end up at 10-6, but start out 8-2, and then only win 2 games the rest of the way, Rex is gone. If we are 10-6, and we start out say 5-5 and we rally together as a team and get to 10-6 and either make the playoffs, or just barely miss by a tie-breaker, Rex will stay. Barring an epic collapse by this team, I think Rex stays. He deserves to stay.. I don't want to see this defense under anybody else to be honest with you.
I don't know if the record is necessarily a great barometer. But if we are competitive, and make a push for a playoff spot, Rex is going nowhere. Especially if the offense shows some promise.
He already had his "trending up" year, this past year. That's why he's still here. He had his reputation year, returning after the 2011 late season collapse. He had his mulligan year after the disgusting 2012 season. He definitely needs to return to the playoffs if he wants to return as HC. That's the way it should be anyway. There are only so many excuses and second chances that should go around. Especially since they went out and got him some talented veterans on offense in the offseason. Maybe they have a great year, make the playoffs and this will all be moot. Who knows? but this staff has to make a return to the playoffs
Rex is one of the best coaches this organization has ever had, and its not really close. I would put him behind Weeb, Walt and Parcells, even though Parcell's only coached the team for 3 years he was quite effective. Rex should not be going anywhere anytime soon, though I do think he needs to win 7+ games to keep the pressure off of him.
I would normally agree with you but there are a lot of factors here that make me say no. Of course if the team collapses and Rex looses the locker room he should be gone. If we don't look like a better team this year, Rex should be gone. But this year's schedule is an absolute buzzsaw, and we really didn't look the part of an 8-8 team last year anyway. Rex has been given a team that is being run on a shoestring budget to build cap space. Not being a playoff team when you've mortgaged your future (in terms of cap space and draft picks) is unacceptable (see Tanny). Not being a playoff team when you have one of the youngest rosters in the NFL and $20 million in cap space shouldn't be surprising. Even with the drafts we've had over the last two years, there are still major holes on this roster, and outside of blowing up your cap space with expensive free agents there was no way of addressing that this year. Basically: Rex should loose his job if he's not doing his job well. This roster isn't built for winning a playoff spot this year, so having playoffs-or-bust expectations on his job security isn't fair, particularly with the schedule we have.
That does not matter though. To me, football is about winning. Missing the playoffs 4 straight years would not be considered winning in my book. We have all pretty much pointed out that a lot of factors have to go into the decision if the Jets miss for a 4th straight year, but I don't think it is an easy choice. I need to see the offense play better, the defense continue to dominate, and much less blowouts occurring in 2014.
Yeah, we can criticize Tanny for a lot of things, but not that so much, at least in terms of the major blame for it.
