what round you would consider joe mixon?

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  1. Br4d

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    The NFL tolerated this kind of stuff for too long, and in truth Tyreek Hill shouldn't be in the league.

    Talent isn't the only thing that should determine eligibility for a high-profile position in front of America's youth.
     
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    I'm thinking this would be an excellent choice for the compensatory pick at the end of round four if still in the board.

    He has ALOT of talent ........and a chip on his shoulder.
     
  3. Nesquik

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    I understand that but what else is the solution here ban him for life??, in that case he's more likely to do bad then good. If everyones mistakes were broadcasted on social media and ESPN when they were teenagers how would any us of look. Im not excusing it at all but Domestic Violence is becoming less and less acceptable, it isn't going to happen overnight but Ray Rice and Greg Hardy are done in the NFL and 10 years ago that wouldn't have been the case. There is progress being made here and Mixon could turn it around if he were given the chance.
    Im not going to lie talent may be the main reason I'm defending this kid but I've been around domestic violence more than most people can change given the opportunity.
     
  4. NCJetsfan

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    Yes, things are changing, but perhaps they would have already changed if the NFL and all professional sports leagues had adopted a zero tolerance policy 10 years ago. If kids knew when they were in middle school or elementary school even that if they did drugs, committed domestic violence, or got in trouble with the law that they'd never be able to play professional sports, then maybe that would serve as a deterrent. I think it would for some. For those it didn't, I think it's quite possible that a lot of them could never change or even turn to a life of crime. I think it's probably better the way things are, but change happens too slowly.
     
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    Thanks for the link.

    Yes, everyone can make a mistake (or mistakes), but you still have to accept whatever the consequences are, otherwise, you simply keep making the mistakes. And saying, "I'm sorry", or "I'm really REALLY sorry" doesn't mean you accepted the consequences. In this case, Mixon might have to accept that he doesn't get to play pro football. Some will holler about this, but consider: He didn't just decide in that one moment to respond in the way he did, this was a lifetime of conditioning, of seeing "role" models do the same thing and deciding that it was okay. Can people change? Sure, sometimes, IF they fully accept how they were wrong, and commit to doing whatever it takes - counseling, medication, 12 Step Program, whatever - to actually change.

    And you're right NC - if the NFL (and all pro sports) really adhered to a strict zero tolerance policy on this it might've saved Mixon and others from making this choice. They need to stand fast this time, and going forward. I am SO SICK of thugs, especially in the NFL and NBA, and it's because they tolerate it, and even market it. The leagues are at least as guilty as the perpetrators IMO.
     
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  7. b.reyes16

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    I don't know a ton about him, but is it fair to call him a thug? Technically he's defending himself and I've never heard of any other off the field issues. Kid made a really dumb mistake, but I think he's someone that a lot of people would get behind. Cept the neo-feminists
     
  8. ColoradoContrails

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    In my book, punching a woman is what a thug would do. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. And I'm not a feminist, neo or otherwise. The hard fact is that sometimes you make a bad choice and it wrecks your life. Millions of people suffer that fate without special exceptions made for them because they're great athletes.
     
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    If Mixon can follow the coat-tails of a Tyreek Hill (who pleaded guilty to a Domestic Violence charge) being drafted by the Chiefs and wind up making he pro-bowl, then it would be worth the gamble of taking him in the 4th or 5th round. The prerequisite would be for the Jets to invite for a look and of course a very extensive interview. Interesting that Mixon was not convicted due to that incident. I guess Ms Molitor decided not to press charges.

    How much does a person need to be punished or reprimanded for rash and violent actions that were spur of the moment? I can't answer that, but Mixon did publicly state his regrets along with an apology to all concerned, including receiving a suspension by the school.
     
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    It may not be fair to call him a "thug," but I don't think that's too far from the truth. I've never even considered punching a woman, much less come close to it, or actually done it. There was no hesitation on his part. She shoved him, and maybe slapped at him, and "boom," he nailed her. He didn't act sorry immediately following, either. Further, when he walked in, he looked like he had a chip on his shoulder. I could be wrong but it appears to me that he was looking for trouble.

    Following the incident, he claimed that she hit him hard, like a man. I don't believe it. She didn't even make clean contact. Even if she had, that's no excuse.

    Unless some ruling comes down from the NFL, he'll probably go undrafted, or not be drafted until the 6th or 7th round, kind of like Tyreek Hill. He'll get a chance to play, but has cost himself a ton of money.
     
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    Great post. I totally agree. IMO too often people (usually men) are willing to cut others slack because they're a great athlete. I think that's wrong. I believe in second chances, but I think they have to be earned with repentance and a clear change in attitude/heart. Mixon ought to have to undergo therapy/counseling and do community service with a battered women's shelter before he can play in the NFL, and then should have to financially compensate his victim for her pain and suffering.
     
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    I agree. I'm not really defending his actions, moreso giving a bit more blame to the chick haha.
     
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    She definitely deserves blame too. Just as men shouldn't hit women, women shouldn't hit men, either. They shouldn't think they're "safe" and "free to do whatever."
     
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    Enunwa was charged with domestic violence back in 2014 but the charges were dropped by his girlfriend.
     
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    Personally I hope we take this kid, he's going to be a beast.
     
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    Thanks. I either missed or forgot that.
     
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    This dude won't get drafted now.. you can't teach stupid.
     
  18. joe

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    If only he gave her the answers to the Organic Chem test this all could've been avoided.
     
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