I think it would be a disaster if he fell that far and took him. He shown a ton of immaturity and arrogance that scares me. He's been built into something via the media that there just waiting to tear down. Nfl players will take notice and go all out to disprove the hype. He's small, played poorly in huge spots and realies on his legs way to much. In the nfl guys are fast, so your not just going to bust 35 yard runs whenever you feel like it. I think he's going to be a total bust. I'm sure after saying this and my long nightmarish history as a jet fan, he will be selected and an instant superstar for another team. Lol
Id take him round 2. I'd go WR or OG if there are blue chip prospects at those spots and I believe there should be.
As for personality and charisma Manziel is the closest thing to Namath in years. But Woody is not another Sonny Werblin who was a big time show biz agent and a true believer in glitz and star power. But to me Manziel was by far the best Qb in college football last year. He won't drop past 10 but the Jets could trade up for him if they really want him. Maybe give Geno and their pick to get him. It's not going to happen but I can't see having both Geno and Manziel at the same time.
I think Johnny Manziel is about the 5th best athlete in terms of star potential in this class. He's also the riskiest athlete by quite a bit. He's small and his style may well just not translate to the NFL. Some times great college athletes just don't translate to the NFL game. Tim Tebow was a great college QB but once he hit the NFL he was a scrub. Manziel has better QBing skills than Tebow by far but he's also small and his ability to get by NFL linebackers and safeties the way he did in college is very questionable. I'd be very nervous if the Jets took him. To take the guy you either have to have a very good plan or hope to get very lucky.
LOL What has ever been "normal" about the way the Jets have done anything? That's why Jets fans are all crazy as hell.
But that logic simply doesn't work. Why didn't anyone draft Chrebet? Think about how many busts were drafted instead of him? Or better yet, what about Brady? Just because someone falls doesn't mean they won't succeed. Nor does it mean they are an automatic bargain. Draft placement is about the perceived value or chance of success. If the Jets FO believes that Manziel has a higher upside than Smith then I'd say they should consider drafting him should the opportunity arise. OTOH, it depends on how much more of an increased upside. A small improvement isn't worth an 18 pick IMHO.
Would he really be the BPA on the board at 18? I truly find that hard to believe, especially when you consider that the jets still don't have any offensive weapons for any QB to throw to. While I know the Jets have historically been poor with the draft, I just don't see Idzik taking this guy at 18 if he falls to them.
This is to unrealistic.Manziel will be gone in first 7 picks.But if for some strange reason he is there we would take him.I still can't belive they moved the draft to may 9th
For all the guys who want Manziel, go look at the game against LSU, they did very little blitzing and forced him to move the team methodically down the field and guess what the result was, he could not do it. He is awesome when you blitz him because he can scramble and extend the play, what scares me is the guy who has to adjust and make reads in the pocket when playing against a zone. That's what scares me about picking Manziel, personally I would pass on him and draft Mettenberger from LSU. He had 2 receivers that benefited from him being tutored by Cam Cameron, taught him how to hang in the pocket, shortened his stride and become a truly efficient QB.
I just hope we don't even have the opportunity. I'm scared to pick him and scared to pass on him. I really think his injury concerns are the only thing that will stop him from being a big time NFL QB but I also really think his injury concerns are a huge concern. He is really small and just can't see his style of play translating to 16 NFL games every season. With that said at 18 you almost have to take him. Unless of course there is something that the general public is unaware of.
i dont see any reason not to take him if hes there. i personally think the kid is a gamer. he steps up in big moments, plain and simple. like everyone, im concerned about his longevity but i think you have to take him if he falls that far. i also dont think it matters bc hes going in the top 10 regardless.
I get your point, but I think your examples are not too relatable to what I was saying. Brady and Chrebet were never top flight prospects, although they both should have been way higher than they were. Manziel right now is arguably the top QB prospect in the draft. I don't think he is, but a lot of people do. If the Texans/Browns/Raiders/Jaguars/Vikings all pass on him, than I think there is probably a reason for that. He's not a sleeper prospect, everyone knows about him. I agree with you that good players can fall, and good players will fall this year. However, if Manziel falls its not because he's a sleeper, its because there is a red flag somewhere.
50/50. You have to have balls to take Manziel in the top 10. Either that or be really clueless about what you might just have bought into. His best chance to get drafted up high is the teams making the picks. None of the top 5 picks is controlled by a really solid organization at this point. The closest is Houston but even they aren't particularly good at making decisions these days.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be there, I'm saying he won't be. I think he gets taken in the top 10 and I think that's gonna be a fatal flaw for whomever does it. I just can't see him falling to 18 whether we take him or not. This isn't a QB who is projected first round but could go late. This is a guy everyone is projecting top 10.
