Oh yea on hard knocks they really needed him for those preseason games. Leaders don't mean anything if they cant play 1 set of downs a season. As for Bart he plays a lot of snaps he just happened to sit a lot of the game against the Bills because we played so many DBs so often. Say what you want about him losing a step but the dude talks every minute hes out there. The nastiness might be gone because no TC and players having to practice without pads. Our D is just not as good as it has been in the past it has nothing to do with attitude.
Kirt great stuff as usual. #3 is a big over looked part. When we run the ball well and conmtroll the clock, it gives the otehr teams offense less chances to attack our D and our boys stay more rested and able to press the issue with the offense.
My brotha. As usual you speak gospel. Rules are paramount in the game, because it its now big biz instead of honest sport. Billion dollar industry. The suits control the game and now it is about points more than competition. But we own the trump card, which is the smarter son of a defensive visionary. It is no coinkydink that this team has appeared in two conference championships under Rex. This guy can coach. But can he get the O right through defensive philosophy? That is what we are watching, the announcements of a return to Ground and Pound, the snaps given to Brunell, these are things that have worked for him on the defensive side. Tough love. We are standing on the proving ground. Cross your fingers.
maybe some of it is because we're the only team in the league who's played New England twice ... and you can add Dallas to the mix, who's offense is ranked #6, and SD #7. We're still the #8 defense in a league where EVERY rule is designed to help the offense. That's far from awful. out of the 7 teams ranked ahead of us, only Jacksonville, Baltimore and San Francisco have faced more than 1 or 2 high-powered offenses ... and that's only if you consider Pittsburgh high-powered. For the most part, teams haven't moved the ball too well against us ... especially when it comes to converting on 3rd down. People are overreacting to a couple of bad drives. Our defense is very good. the only missing part is a stud pass rusher.
Revis is the lone star on this defense. The rest are pretty average to very good., Which all factored makes us a decent defense,which is what we are.
For once I am a bit confused by what you are trying to say here. Saying any pass D will suffer without an adequate pass rush seems to absolve the secondary, including the safeties, and of course there is merit to that argument. But you also say the safeties suck, which I don't agree with. Now of course it's entirely possible that the D can have no pass rush and the safeties suck at the same time, but your no pass rush makes it harder to assess the safeties, does it not? Ftr, I am not saying Leonhard and Smith are great, just not sucky.
One bright spot this year is I think Pouha is a rising star. Despite the love for Harris many have, I think Pouha's gotten better enough to be the second best player on D after Revis.
when we stop getting passed on at will by brady, and run train on byfreakin tim tebow, we can start to trash talk and claim our identity. Until then we need to fix the leaks and man up and play like an elite D.
Jets defensive problem is two fold. Can't rush the passer and safeties aren't fast enough to cover anyone.
my whole point which ive said numerous times in this thread is we need a legit pass rush. i mentioned the secondary being overrated as in Rex expects too much out of them when he schemes these floating zone coverages to compensate for the fact we cant get to the qb.
It seems that the Jets are not blitzing anywhere near the amount that they used to do. The constant blitzing created an uncertainty in the opposing QB's mind, forcing turnovers/erratic passes etc. Without the blitzing, we get very little prssure on the opposing QB, which makes it much easier for them, and much harder on the passing defense. My 2 cents.
yeah, but you have to remember the games and situations where blitzes hurt the Jets. It's not like there's no way to defeat blitzes. Use them too much, and opponents will make you pay. The real problem coming from a base 3-4 D is that the Jets need to pressure the Qb from the OLB position. As long as they stick with the 3-4, that's where an increased capability to pressure hte Qb must come from.
We're better than decent ... we're very good. The way the rules are written, it's close to impossible to be great. You're not even allowed to hit anyone anymore. Take away the RIDICULOUS 49 points we've given up on INT and Fumble returns this season, and you're left with 192 points given up by the defense ... 17.5 ppg. I'd be willing to bet that goes down to about 16 ppg by the time we end the season. The defense is not our problem here people.
Awesome post...Gotta love facts Defense has been on the field alot this year. We need to sustain drive(drifts towards offensive problems)
you need a great offense to win the superbowl has been proven again and again. a superbowl winning team's identity can't be about the defense. it's about the quarterback
The rules are the same for every team. We'd rate higher on defense if we had another impact player besides Revis. Thank god for Stevie Johnson developed the dropsies on the Bills last drive. We were real close to losing that game. We need a bonafide power pass rusher. But I agree with the statement that the D is not the problem. If the offense & special teams were better, the defense would look a whole lot better.
they dont suck, ok let me try to clarify. Rex puts too much faith in our coverage abilities. I think thats the simplest way I can say it. That is severely compounded by the lack of a true pass rush. I think thats why I keep mentioning the two even though if for one to be true usually the other cannot. My argument to that is not only are they being asked to cover, but some of these floating zones where in bunch formations or when recievers come across the middle where they show man coverage and pass the reciever off to the next defender at a certain point in the route tree. this scheming, is genius. the only thing is were not good enough to run it. this recquires the pass rush to rush throws and be baited by false post snap looks to make the QB think a certain reciever is open. so of course one could simply say well nobody is good enough to cover if our pass rush is as bad as I say it is. my ultimate point is how many simple tackles in the flats has Leonhard missed on outside containment? its not an epidemic but theyre usually on 2nd or 3rd and long. his physical limitations are maddening cause he plays with elite vision, hence the only reason someone his size can keep a job in the league this long. he is constantly a inch or two short of making plays on the ball and having to dive as if his life depended on it just to be up in the air close to WR's sometimes. and smith speaks for itself, hes an underweight LB playing S. he sees the game well but stiff hips and lack of long distance speed make him a considerable liability against any team who can pass efficiently in the intermediate to deep level. so due to Rex's playcalling thats how I believe both apply A)we do not have a respectable, consistent pass rush at all. and people point to sacks I'm all about pressures and knock downs. I'll take a D that can move the pocket and force erratic passes and disrupt rhythym over a few token sacks where we fail to capitalize on the ultimate stop. B)the lack of rush is there and Rex still calls schemes and coverages that recquire everyone to be on their A game every snap. and its quite evident the limitations of Leonhards frame and Smiths mediocre coverage abilities stand out. not to mention I'm fucking sick of seeing NB's on TE's. everytime we do this teams up their tempo and attack the short to intermediate routes at a good pace. Point in case its Rex's overabundance of faith in his scheme not backed by the suffiecient talent that makes point A painfully more obvious
You go into a lot of depth in your analysis and claim that we're not talented enough to make the scheme work but there's three problems with your argument ... We're 4th in the league in completion percentage allowed. We're 4th in the league in 3rd down conversions allowed. We're 3rd in the league in QB rating against. I'm no expert in Xs and Os but it sounds like we must be doing something right on defense. I'm a hell of a lot more concerned when our offense is on the field. In fact, this entire thread is a bit ridiculous. There's only been 3 games this season where the defense didn't play well enough to win ... the two Patriot games, and the Raider game. If the offense had been pulling its share of the load all season we'd be sitting at 8-3 right now with a playoff spot pretty much locked up.
