What EXACTLY makes Gohlston a lousy player?

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  1. hiker

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    Does this sound like a first round pick?

    http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=830224&postcount=20

    From Sporting News, March

    Vernon Gholston
    Ohio State

    NFL comparison: Kalimba Edwards

    Against the run: Shows flashes of being a solid run stuffer, but is inconsistent and gets swallowed up by big blockers. Struggles to maintain leverage on the corner; seems only to want to rush upfield. Takes plays off. Must get stronger.

    Pass Rush: Has NFL speed. Gets upfield in a hurry to disrupt the pocket. Has a variety of pass rush moves that rely on his agility, but he will not be able to bull rush many NFL linemen.

    Initial Quickness: When focused, he shows explosive quickness off the snap; he is inconsistent, though. If opponents run at him play after play, he seems to slow down by the fourth quarter. After his initial move, he tends to go half-speed.

    Run/Pass Recognition: Seems locked in on rushing the passer and is slow to react to runs. Rarely moves well lateral to chase plays, laboring down the line unless the ballcarrier comes back to him. Even when keying on the run, he struggles to help much and will blow containment assignments.

    Pursuit/Tackling: Is slow in pursuit and does not hustle to the opposite sideline. When focused, he was a dominant college player, but often disappeared in games. Is a good tackler when playing hard, but is inconsistent.

    Bottom Line: Gholston could fit in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme and has the size and speed to be productive at defensive end, tackle, or rush linebacker. A dynamic athlete, Gholston can dominate some games and totally disappear in others. Many NFL teams will be wary of his inconsistent effort and focus. Gholston should be used only as a pass rush specialist for a year or two as he develops.
     
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    Lack of effort and an inability to shed blocks. As everyone else has stated he has all the physical tools but lacks that passion. And if he couldn't be motivated on a Rex Ryan defense, he's likely not gonna be motivated by anyone. We should cut the fat and take the hit on his monster contract and cut him this year if its uncapped, he won't be any better than a ST player.
     
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    He doesn't care about football, he's happy to ride the bench and collect his millions, even if he is playing out of position, if he gave any effort whatsoever he could at least get on the field.

    Glenn Dorsey played out of position all year as a 3-4 DE for the chiefs, he was probably their best d-linemen this season because he played his ass off.
     
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    Asking what makes Gholston a lousy player is kind of like asking what makes shit smell.
     
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    I'm going to leave Hornet's quote in my sig, but if I wanted to change it, that would be awesome. :rofl:
     
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    He will be out of the league in 3 years, maybe 2. What a freaking waste.
     
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    He belongs in a 3 technique.. He lacks the instincts for LB, or the size for a 3-4 end.. The solution for him to play in a 3-4 is for him to gain 15 lbs and play end, he is a very low bodyfat 260 and could gain some weight. I do not think he is a Rex Ryan type of guy, so I would not be suprised if he ended up somewhere else next year. I do however, believe that in the right role he can be effective in this league as he's simply too talented an athlete.
     
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    So how much of a cap hit do we take to off load him this off-season?
     
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    If you cant find your car you dam sure cant find the QB LOL
     
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    Thank you sir, coming from you that is high compliment.
     
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    Well heres my input... i think he can be turned around by REX and get him more aggressive maybe even if that means using him as a down lineman and have him in certain schemes.. if i was him i would seriously higher some of the best NFL pass rushers as consultants and for them to train him from the ground up on how to get to the QB... To me to be a good Pass rusher its all about your first step and being able to use your hands to disengage and rip swim or bull rush.. Plzzz let him wake up and seek help
     
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    there won't even be a cap
     
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    Its stupid we drafted that bum. I mean we all said no and they did it anyway.

    Also knowing our luck, when we trade him away he will become a beast.
     
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    Cant believe this man is a millionaire.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHA love the video. thank you Mangina!!
     
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    I'm not ready to say that he is not passionate about playing, but I will say the man does not seem to know how to make himself a better player.

    I knew after his first pre season that, athletically there was nothing in the world he couldnt do, but I wasnt sure if he would be able to mentally grasp what he was being asked to do
     

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