The most important thing Geno has to show is consistency. He doesn't have to be GREAT at everything, just good enough overall. If he can keep us in the game then that's all we are asking of him.
Can't argue too much with that. What I want at the end of the season is to feel confident about Geno. It's that simple. I'm not expecting him to be great or be the finished article, but to have shown definite areas of strength and look like he has learned from his mistakes. If he just becomes a good, reliable QB, then we have a man to work with for the immediate future at least.
Man Geno was A-Rod-Like in college! If that boy gains his confidence he gonna be a problem. I have no doubt that geno can prosper with REAL NFL talent around him this year.. I cant name a rook that woulda even went 8-8 with Salas and Nelson at their 1 & 2
Can we really fault geno for the amount of turnovers? Were they all his fault do to bad decisions or was he simply just trying to make something out of absolutely nothing. I felt the same way about **** *******'s last two seasons. Yes the stars are necessary. Tired of seeing that name lol
Some were his fault, some were Marty's fault for asking way to much way to fast, some are his receivers fault.. Regardless, the turnovers have to be cut in half this season.
U know what annoyed me, is the fact that we weren't using geno to his strengths. He plays out of the gun really well and from what i see he played his best out of the shotgun in the nfl. Why draft a QB (or start) if your not willing to run the offense based on their strengths ? Geno is a GUN SLINGER, but nobody would know that unless they watched him at WVU. He tried to explain that when he said "i was playing like a robot lately"..
One thing is for sure, its put up or shut up time. Geno gets a pass from me for last season. He had the ups and downs of a rookie (although the downs were far greater than the ups), but he had so little to work with, not many QB's would have succeeded, let alone a rookie who clearly wasn't ready. Idzik has done a good job giving Geno the supporting cast he needs. Adding Decker and CJ to Kerley in FA were great moves. They also added 4 pass catchers in the draft. Granted 3 of them were late, but if even 1 of those 3 can produce that would be huge. The only question mark is the OL. Hopefully Dozier is good, because he is definitely going to get some burn this year. There is no reason for Geno to not play exponentially better this year.
He needs to learn how to play under center to maximize his potential. Marty incorporated Geno's strengths into the game-plan but he needs to improve more facets about his game in order to become a good QB.
the offensive coordinator was brought in before Smith, and they weren't just going to change everything about the offense to accommodate Geno. that said lets not act like they didn't TRY to make him comfortable. he didn't play from the shotgun most of the time for nothing after all. there was a bit of compromise overall, with focus on transitioning him away from the air raid attacking gunslinger role that wasn't gonna fly in this offense, or against NFL defenses.
you know what, if he plays like the OTHER Smith we'll be fine. Alex Smith seems to have found a decent method of turnover prevention by way of running at any iffy scenario or obvious opening. sometimes this might let a bigger passing play opportunity or two go if he had been patient but its better than killing a drive altogether by firing the ball in a place where no margin of error can be made if to complete a pass. he'll be knowledgeable of the offense enough to know where his options are this year, and recognizing how defenses are attempting to stop his offense and how to react pre and post snap will become second nature in time. but for now, when in doubt look for a way out. he'll improve but he's STILL a young Quarterback thats not gonna put it all together at once. Right now I'm just looking for Geno the game manager, and reasonably I think we'll get that guy. turnover prevention is all he needs to keep the job going into next year.
Trying to make something out of nothing is a bad decision a lot of the time. Most turnovers he had were mental errors. His fumbles were a major problem as well.
Funny how all the discussion of BPA in the draft seems left out here. Obviously the question depends to some extent on whether the Jets use a first round pick on a Qb next draft, since if they did a potential starter could be obtained. Since I don't believe in pure BPA, and no one konws at present where the Jets might be drafting and who will be available at that spot, I will try to answer what level of performance would be necessary to have the Jets not consider going Qb high in the draft next year. (TO digress here it was my view they did not consider doing so this off season in part since they wanted to see more of Smith before deciding on him medium term, and also because they got Vick in FA.) And of course the question assumes Smith starts and plays most of the time, which unfortunately it looks more and more like the course the Jets are set on. So, assuming that, I think the standard of what level of play would effectively prevent the Jets from pursuing a Qb with a high pick or another quality FA signing would start with some basic stats, like a huge improvement on turnovers, liniting them to something close to league average, improving ypa to league average, average game yardage near league average, and a completion percentage of @60% or better. Then I think we would want to see him win some games for the Jets, and not lose any. How about a comeback win included in there after the Jets are down by more than a TD with @20 minutes left in the game? How about the playoffs? Playoffs?? Well, that depends on whether the Jets perform well enough for that elsewhere, which is far from clear at this point. I don't think it's any one thing, even Qb rating or some other single stat. Although a mid pack Qb rating would probbly mean he would come back... I think that covers it.
They can possibly have a similar game, although I wouldn't wish the career path Alex Smith took to get where he did on any QB. He went through half a dozen OCs and a few different HCs and then when he really got going, yet another HC fell in love with a young QB and shipped him out. The guy has some serious fortitude. We can only hope that Geno has half as much inner strength as Alex Smith.
Geez, the Jets have one of the best OC's in the league, and we have Smith homers here defending him by complaining about the OC. More generally, which int's last season were the fault of the receivers?
Alex Smith doesn't take any risks, and relies way too much on Jamaal Charles. I don't mind if Geno makes mistakes, as long as he learns from them and continues to make good plays along the way. I'm not a fan of Alex's super conservative play.
The irony. It was conservative game planning and playcalling that were the heart of the four game stretch finishing last season.
We need to become more explosive on offense if we want to make the playoffs. I don't think we should be too impressed with those last 4 games. It's something to build off, nothing more. Even so, Geno became a play-maker on his own right and starting running more often. The offenses we play next season are really good, we can't be too conservative.
Alex Smith has had shoulder issues going way back, he's this generation's Chad Pennington. I think what people want to see from Geno is the same brand of intelligent play. He doesn't have to dink and dunk to do it, since he has a rifle for an arm, but dump offs and open scrambles aren't a bad thing when the situation calls for it. Never go full Sanchez. Oh, and by the way, Charles was basically all Smith had, Bowe is a shadow of what he was.
