What do we do now?

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  1. No Fly Zone

    No Fly Zone Well-Known Member

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    Even if he made that pick 6 it would be like putting a banaid on a gunshot wound.

    We all know the offense will struggle until Zach can consistently hit screens with proper timing, TE's and medium passes. They don't need him to be the mad bomber just improve accuracy and timing. With a fast swarming defense it begged for more TE presence, I know Conklin caught 5 of 6 but that number should easily have been double give the lack of time Zach had. Where where Hall and Cook in the screen game? 1 target to Cook and 2 to Hall? dumb dumb dumb... its looking more and more like Hackett is as bad as his dad. Zero intelligence in game planning, zero adjustments but hey lets put Zach in a situation we know he's not capable of handling yet and make him force bad throws to try to make something happen instead of reading what their D is doing and scheme around it for favorable plays.

    To me what, aside from Hackett being an idiot with no brain, cost them the game was a piss poor defensive game plan. Dallas has 2 real weapons, Lamb and Pollard. Lamb caught 11 out of 13 targets and Pollard caught 7 of 8. The D did okay in the run game for the most part but awful scheme to stop their 2 weapons. That is on the coaching staff for not targeting and game planning for their only 2 real weapons.

    The O line is what we thought they were, the coaches need to deal with it with proper game planning and they failed miserably in that regard.
     
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  2. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    A few things I would like to see this week or even next week:

    Ruckert over Uzomah. Uzomah stinks. Guy isnt TE2 anymore
    Cobb shouldn't be active. Rodgers isn't here this year. Hardman and Gipson need to get his playtime
    Prob Give Brown 1 or 2 more weeks and then move AVT to tacke. Idk if I would put him at RT and move Becton to LT when Becton has been our best OL atm
    If you want Bawden to be active and on the roster, play him and run behind AVT/Becton/Ruckert on the right side
    Tippmann should start this week at C
     
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  3. Nyjets4eva

    Nyjets4eva Well-Known Member

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    I wish you were the HC cause clearly the one we have don’t got no common sense. He just gives great high-fives and BS speeches
     
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  4. jets4848

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    and keeps bsing the fans, last year it was we’d see buffalo in the playofffs again, this year it’s Zach improved a lot, either he is oblivious or he’s a a bs artist who bsed himself into a job he is not qualified for
     
  5. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    These aren't even insane requests/changes is the thing. I hope these guys aren't that stubborn which worries me. Saleh didn't seem to happy with the gameplan when talking about in the presser. It's a travesty Breece got 4 touches. The dude can go 50+ anytime he touches the ball. Take off the training wheels. It's time.
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It’s so comical sometimes watching us be out coached. As soon as we went to 5-wide the Cowboys walked up a fifth rusher every single time and caused pressure instantly.
     
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  7. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Words don't really even do justice.

    I was talking to my brother this morning about the entire gameplan and I know this is so crazy to even think or write, but it really makes you think if they just punted and went game planning for New England. There really is no other explanation for what we witnessed yesterday. It was insane to the utmost degree.

    33/45 plays in 11 personnel
    Ruckert played 5 snaps
    Bowden played 2 snaps
    2 rush attempts to the right side behind 75 and 77 which were 6 YPC
    Breece 4 touches

    We are there running empty sets where 2 of the options are Uzomah, Conklin, and Cook. What the fuck.

    https://x.com/Michael_Nania/status/1703749613138723208?s=20
     
  8. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    It would also help if he didn't stare down his WRs.
     
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  9. ColoradoContrails

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    True, but again, not the biggest problem yesterday.
     
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  10. BacktoQueens

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    These are some really good suggestions imo.
    I do think AVT to RT, and Becton to LT makes sense tho. Might have to consider benching Tomlinson too.
    Time to see what Tippman and Schweitzer can do.

    Also really need more 12 and 21 personnel.
    I understand the thought process of putting out 4 WR sets, to get the defense spread out giving a little more room to work.
    But with a QB that doesn't process quickly, and an OL not giving him any time, it's not working in the least.

    With 12 personnel i agree more Ruckert.
    Let him help the OT's in pass pro, and add to the run game.
    Also get both the TE's much more active in the passing game.
    See if Cook can contribute more in the passing game too, as his rushing hasn't been good.
    Likewise with Bawden in 21.
    Hall ready for more snaps as well.

    Watching the Patriots last night, it was 2TE sets most of the time, as they also have a limited QB.
     
  11. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    The Patriots are going to bitch slap us. They ALWAYS do and I see NOTHING that changes my thinking on this. Because it's the Patriots, Mac Jones WILL have a career game just because.
     
  12. Dierking

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    bruh
     
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  13. york61

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    Spot on. unfortunately we have a politician as a head coach and class clown as OC. You think after stinking for so long on offense the jets would have drafted someone with savant like skills as an offensive coordinator. But no, we go down the defensive coach rabbit hole. I wish the front office would just read some of members posts. Maybe it will switch a light bulb on and they will act on some of our recommendations.
     
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  14. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    The only problem with your thought process is these "Rhoades Scholars" think they know more than everyone else. God forbid they take any direction from someone other than themselves. lol
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Take the training off for Breece. Let's go
     
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    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    With no changes in the OLine make up, we don't stand much of a chance of winning this game.
     
  18. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Our QB, OL and OC against their D? Belichick's licking his chops right about now.
     
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  19. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know if i trust saleh here. When AVT came out last year at LT v Pitt no one knew until the first snap of the game. Why would saleh every admit they’re changing or starting a different OL? Him wanting to get ruckert on the field is a massive win and means he realizes he’s an elite blocker. His game tape has been incredible — literally blocking people off the screen.
    Hopefully we see an OL change next week the latest
     
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  20. GreenWhiteandGold

    GreenWhiteandGold Well-Known Member

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    Feels like this is going to be an very Sunday evening question but the question remains
     

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