Just watching the replays. Brutal drop by Marshall. That's a TD and an 8 point lead. And giving up a first down on 3rd and 17 was unforgivable. _
Can we feel any sense of optimism with Mangold knowing he walked off on his own and even smiled heading to the sideline?
OR Bowles uses one of his THREE timeouts, gives us 2:30 to work with at the end of the first half, we MAYBE score a TD, then Marshall's drop doesn't make as big a difference.
This is why people all over the country hate Patriots fans almost as much as they hate the Patriots. Coming on an opponent's forum after the game is over to praise your team. Classless. I changed my mind. I hate Pats fans more than I hate the Patriots. Congratulations on being a douche.
Did anyone else have a total meltdown today? I completely lost my temper in my living room -- haven't done that since the 2010 AFC Championship Game versus Pittsburgh. Was throwing shit, I ripped up a magazine, was cursing nonstop at the top of my lungs (this is why I like to watch Jets games alone). It's odd because I was expecting a 10 point loss or so early in the week, then as the game got closer, I felt increasingly calm and confident that we could win. So maybe my increased expectations made me lose it...but it was there for the taking...lead in the fourth quarter, the potential to go up 8 if Marshall catches that ball. Oh well. I'm over it already; New England is the best team in the league. Beat Oakland.
I told my wife, who's a Patriots fan, not to talk to me about the game as the only ending of that conversation would be divorce. So we talked about Shakeology and Beach Body. Crisis averted.
For what it's worth I thought it was a really well played game and for the most part evenly matched. It's tough to remember with not much more than 10 minutes to go it was the Patriots 3rd and 17 from their own 20 with the Jets up by four. Patriots offensive line was awful run blocking, decent against the rush. I didn't see a whole lot of blitzing but it appeared they picked a couple up. Receivers did a fairly good job of getting open but I thought the Jets played a pretty soft coverage, Patriots receivers weren't challenged getting out into their routs at all, that was the biggest surprise to me. All things considered I'd consider the Jets offensive line the biggest area in need of improvement. Jets threw the ball well, fitz really looked prepared and he knew where he was going based on the defenses he was seeing. Receivers got open and had some nice size match ups and made some plays an blew some plays. They wasted a lot of time trying to run the ball. I thought the offensive line had some mental mistakes and came off their blocks way too quickly, especially on screens. Decent job holding down the rush though. The crossing routs killed the Patriots who like to just keep everything in front of them. Oddly they were more aggressive than the Jets were. Conservative game, but you have to admit the coach put the players in a position to go out there and win it. Not a lot of mental errors or penalties. It could easily have gone the other way. Jets are never easy but you guys seem built for some consistency this time around.
Again, thanks for the compliments. You guys are pretty classy coming here after a win and not rubbing our noses in it. Nice analysis. Hopefully, Jet Fans can stop with the circular firing squad now and move on to the Raiders next week. I'm pretty sure Bowles has.
Really worried about Nick. We have a lot more pieces on O this year, but in years past when he's not in the line up, we have been gutless.
forget who reported it but yesterday I heard on the radio from one of the reporters that it was obvious Mangold was in A LOT of pain in the locker room. (he emphasized A LOT). He said injured players don't have to be interviewed so no one spoke with Mangold directly but he was grimacing a lot and it was obvious to everyone around he was hurting a lot don't mean to piss in your coffee on a monday morning just relaying what I heard
I read neck injury on PFT...that doesn't sound good. Who knows...? but I think he will be held out for Oakland.
Couple of added observations after watching the game a second time... 1st half Ivory's first carry...looks like he has plenty of room for the edge, but just stops for some reason? Fitz loses the ball trying to change hands, horrible start for the offense. We are leading the league at losing the football in the 1st quarter, with Houston (7 turnovers) Wilk bust through Patriots RT for beautiful sack HB screen is still ugly...for years we fail to execute this Decker stiff arms the shit out of some poor NE Db on his first catch for 20 Decker should have had that deep bomb on the next throw...got fingertips on it. One step out of reach Ninkovich is a bitch (seriously, this guy was all over the field in the 1st half though) Ninkovich drops a pick in the end zone...very lucky. Cumberland drops a TD...garbage Why no Ivory..? 15 plays 80yds and we only come away with 3... (that was a win for Pats defense) Dan fouts is a cock sucker... Lots of drops by Pats receivers...just saying. Belichick fakes like he is going for it on 4th and four (gay), than calls out his punt team...forces us to leave the D on the field, although we are able to get Kerley on for the return Ivory back on the field, looks fine (should have been in for the goal line work of the last drive) Fitzpatrick when scrambling carries the ball in his throwing hand, does not tuck away the ball A bunch of Fitzpatrick deflected footballs at the line of scrimmage...3 already in the game. The Pats VRoooooooommmmmm sound on third down is lame Decker killing it early...3catches 52 yds 1st quarter Kerley shifty for a huge conversion on 3rd and long Fitz takes huge shot in the back scrambling for end zone Jets just dominating Time of Possession and total offense, through 1st quarter and change "World premier of Super Girl is just one day away" Kerley TD dance...awesome. Personal foul on the kicking team (Jets) low block...? No replay Pryor breaking up passes on Gronk, early in 2nd quarter Lafell drops ... properly pumped up footballs defense getting off the field easily....3 & out again...11:40 left in the 2nd quarter 3rd and 2 Fitzpatrick chucks it way over Marshall head....Pats guaranteed great field position.. 31 yd punt...gives New England the ball at our 45 New England has not run the ball once yet 9:50 left in 2nd quarter Wilkerson getting held badly....Lafell drops the ball after beating Revis Gilchirst misses big tackle allows Pats to pickup first down Amendola killed us yesterday. Wilkerson drops interception. Coples sucks at getting the edge, what happened to this guy? Coples over pursues, allows Brady to scramble for a first Pryor saves a TD with shoe string tackle Pryor locks up Gronk on the next play Somehow the Jets D keeps Gronk out on the next play 4th and goal....Brady over the top Touchdown Gostkowski makes PAT that goes off the right upright Pats fans are ugly Ivory running up the middle....anything to the outside..? Decker fights hard for a 1st, comes up short. Pats start at their own 40 after poor punt coverage (17yd return) Gilchrist abused by Gronk Skrine abuses Edelman, ..how you doin? Edelman drops another pass Revis just misses a pick....Lafell picks up 19yds on 2nd and 20...New England fans come to life Refs can't spot the ball correctly for shit. 2nd time they got the spot wrong Pace with the huge sack...untouched (I could have got in there)...brady falls to the ground untouched "don't hurt me." Gostkowski hits the field goal 13-10 Pats 2:00 and 3 time outs....we should get this. "Average starting field position so far New England their own 40...New York Jets their own 17" (HUGE disadvantage for Jets) "Fitzpatrick leading rusher so far with 21yds." Ivory for 2...can't find the edge or any room We have run 2 plays and a minute off the clock...definitely not trying to score any points before the half???????? Fitzpatrick sacked, loss of 12... 24seconds left on the clock...New England calls a TO New England returns 50yd punt 10yds to start at their own 47...12seconds left in the half Demario Davis huge shoe string tackle on Gronk....New England TO 7seconds left Lafell drops again...fully inflated football Richardson with monster sack...only a 3 man rush...impressive
Third quarter Fitzpatrick the leading rusher with 26yds on 4 attempts, Stacy 14yds on 5 attempts, Ivory 12yds on 9 attempts (wtf?) Still working on Ivory's left hamstring "New England 76 straight wins when leading at halftime"...77 now Amendola, from the end zone, returns kickoff to New England 29yd line Gronk, wide open, down the sideline, just misses catch...one step Demario Davis missed tackle on white...good thing dion Lewis isn't playing 3rd and 2...Brady completes to Chandler over Pryor for big gain....no pressure, 7man rush. Bald new england coach in the background going crazy Pryor limping...Pryor down on the field...no play...pryor walks off on his own albeit limping Fouts is a queer, confirmed, "loves dicks" Blount 2nd carry for a yd...so far Blount 2 carries for 4 yds. Leonard Williams 1sec too late from getting a sack...brady completes for a gain of 12 "Jets have not given up a point yet in the 3rd quarter...outscored opponents 34-0 in the third quarter... up until this point. 68-21 in the 2nd half." Is Edelman Asian? Wilkerson rushes Brady, just misses sack...Brady feels the pressure and throws it away 3rd and 2...Brady identifies the match up Pace on White...exposes picks up the 1st down and gain of 10...pace does get picked on the play. no call Gilchirst covers Gronk...incomplete Jets get pressure (pace)... 3rd and goal Edelman drops Touchdown...Revis on coverage....properly pumped up football...."9drops by patriots receivers so far"... New England kicks field goal 16-10 Pats (win for Jets defense) Jets open the drive at our 20 Ivory huge stiff arm on Butler for 2 yds... no speed though for the edge. Ivory only 15yds so far Marshall only 1 catch so far for 13yds Fitzpatrick pass knocked down at the line of scrimmage..."4x today." Devin Smith gets open for a first time...just finds the line of gain Stacy for 4yds (we need another running back...nothing on the ground today). Stacy, no gain Branch denies water from some patriots waterboy Marshall gets open for big first down....from the slot. 2 catches 26yds so far Ivory up the middle for 5ish...nothing on the outside..? 11carries for 18yds so far Kerley picks up 1st down. Fouts thought we should have gotten a late hit penalty on Kerley who was out of bounds...I thought it looked clean Ivory driving inside...nothing outside. Fitzpatrick scrambles for 5...offsetting penalties...holding on the defense (Butler) x2...holding on Mangold...replay the down 2nd and 7....10 plays 44yds...5:46 left in 3rd quarter Decker drops the ball...a little high, but should have been caught...When Decker turns around the ball is right there...I don't think he ever really saw it...just barely gets finger tips on it. Bad timing. Kerley is actually getting a lot of snaps today. He is in on every 4 receiver set. Just about every 3rd down Pats fans are ugly 5 step drop Fitzpatrick squeezes it, threading the needle to decker...Great throw, between defenders, great catch....that was a Pro level throw for the first down and a gain of 24....side arm throw by fitz Ivory only running between the tackles...nothing on the outside. Throw to Ivory in the flats...maybe a little pick action by decker... Touchdown....Great hands by Ivory...Great catch 17-16 Jets 4:07 left in 3rd quarter. Pats start their drive at their 22...4:02 left in the Third quarter Gronk makes beautiful catch for 11yds...Cromartie on coverage "9 drops by patriots in the first half" #deflategate Richardson with the strip sack...Pats linemen kicks the ball...Brady recovers (HUGE miss opportunity...could have had the ball on their 35...no luck/dice.) Lafell with the catch...3rd and 3 coming up Lafell drops wide open first down (new england 10 drops on the day...) Jets rush 6 on the play...get no pressure...Brady releases quick Jets return the punt 1yd...start drive at our own 16yd line...2:02 left in the Third Pats build a new playground...Kraft looks like he pooed himself "Kraft has built a beautiful kingdom" Ion Eagle...Fouts, "yes, beautiful." Ivory rushes between guard and RT for gain of 4....Ivory 14carries for 26yds so far Ivory rushes up the middle for a first down. Marshall huge catch...off of PA fake to Ivory...Jets move the ball into New England territory
I agree that it was a good game, but I disagree that it was well played. I think both sides left a lot on the table, which is especially uncharacteristic for a Belichick coached team. It was a pretty even matchup when both teams had off days, so I'm eager to see if it'd be the same when both teams play well. Hopefully we find out in December, or maybe January.
