Week. 3- Bears @ NY Jets Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Poeman, Sep 14, 2014.

  1. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2011
    Messages:
    5,359
    Likes Received:
    5,077
    I think our pass rush is going to look better this year than a lot of people think. The Raiders went out of their way to protect Carr as much as possible, at the expense of having a remotely productive offense. We followed that up with one of the hardest QB's in the league to sack, and we still managed 4 sacks and quite a few QB hits. I want to say 10 hits, although I can't remember for sure. Cutler is definitely not one of the hardest QB's to sack, especially behind his deteriorating offensive line. People are sleeping on Coples, even though he's looked really nice this year. He wrecked Jones-Drew on limited snaps, and sacked Rodgers once and hit him 3 other times.
     
  2. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2003
    Messages:
    7,068
    Likes Received:
    3,459
    Rodgers is actually one of the easiest QBs to sack because he is constantly trying to go for the big play and holds onto the ball too much. Go look up the stats...
     
    legler82 likes this.
  3. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    13,104
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    You are entitled to your opinion on their OL, but the fact is Cutler has only been sacked 3 times in the first two games.
     
  4. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    Messages:
    1,891
    Likes Received:
    1,068
    between the bills n 9ers, they have 10 sacks total, 30% of those were cutler...so ya not the greatest OL....
     
    DownAndOut likes this.
  5. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2009
    Messages:
    4,124
    Likes Received:
    4,147
    I read somewhere that 75% of Cutler's passes this year have been between 0-5 yards in the air. That's why his sack numbers are so low this year.
     
  6. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    13,104
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    Football Outsiders has an offensive line ranking system. While Chicago ranks 22nd for run blocking, they rank 11th for pass protection. They also cite 3 sacks total.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
     
  7. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    Messages:
    1,891
    Likes Received:
    1,068

    that's all well n good but the discussion if we can get to cutler or not...the two teams that has faced him, 30% of the sacks between the two teams is from cutler.

    i havent watched bills this year so can't say how good their d line is but i saw the 9ers against the bears, they def isn't close to what is was last year and i do believe jets have a better front than the 9ers atleast imo
     
  8. jcass10

    jcass10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Messages:
    2,759
    Likes Received:
    2,096
    Thats true, but that wasnt really happening this past week. He was getting rid of the ball super fast, it was almost annoying. On plays where the Jets werent being held and actually got to Rodgers, he got rid of the ball too quick. He played a great game and took advantage of the secondary.
     
  9. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2011
    Messages:
    5,359
    Likes Received:
    5,077
    Except two of the better linemen in the group are out.
     
  10. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Messages:
    27,721
    Likes Received:
    31,387
    That plays well for us. The deep ball is troublesome but we can be pretty good with the ball in front of us. Just got to make sure we finish tackles
     
  11. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    13,104
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    I am not making a prediction that Cutler will have great protection. I just question the assumption that he will not have decent protection. Presumably the stats quoted were developed when they had already begun to be hit with injuries.
     
  12. Banedon

    Banedon New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2014
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    4
    That...is a really weird way to try to prove that an OL is bad. The Bills and 49ers have played 4 games between them. 50% of those games were vs the Bears, but only 30% of their sacks actually came against them. Sooooo...I'm not sure how you can draw some "bad OL" conclusion from that.
     
  13. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    Messages:
    1,891
    Likes Received:
    1,068
    i didnt say they have "bad ol" i said they didn't have the greatest ol, middle of the pack at best. i do believe our def front, will have a good chance to get after cutler
     
  14. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    2,299
    Likes Received:
    697
    I am also confused by this argument.
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2003
    Messages:
    52,999
    Likes Received:
    25,072
  16. mute

    mute Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Messages:
    9,113
    Likes Received:
    3,142
    That reminds me ,whos going to cover holmes?
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2003
    Messages:
    52,999
    Likes Received:
    25,072
    Pryor. For 1 play.
     
    NotSatoshiNakamoto and mute like this.
  18. TonyMaC

    TonyMaC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2013
    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    863
    I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want to see Decker or Miliner in this game. They're hurt, and liable to get even MORE injured for an extended period of time if they play.

    It makes no sense to put them out there when they're not at 100%, if Rex does that, it'll be the dumbest move he's made all year.
     
  19. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    2,516
    Likes Received:
    936
    Our dbs don't stand a chance the next 5 weeks if we don't get constant pressure from the line we will like all 5 games
     
  20. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    38,083
    Likes Received:
    32,152
    All I can add to this thread is... Thank God we don't have to face Devon Hester on KO's or PR's.. That would truly be embarrassing considering our stellar special teams play.
     

Share This Page