Week 17 Other Games thread

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  1. Yisman

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    SNF ratings

    1. 2010, 21.8 million, 13.0/21

    2. 2009, 19.4 million, 11.7/19

    3. 2006, 17.5 million, 11.0/18

    4. 2008, 16.6 million, 10.2/16

    5. 2007, 16.0 million, 10.0/16
     
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    I guarantee you the game this Sunday Night will have a higher rating than last years game. I dont get what you are trying to get at, QBs DOES NOT matter.

    Orton vs Foles will draw a larger audience than RG3 vs Romo did last year. Like I said originally, no one cares who is playing in these games, they will draw no matter what.
     
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    You don't get that the NFL's ratings have gone up over the years?

    So yes, a game from 2010 will have better ratings than a game from 2000, but that doesn't prove QBs don't matter, or that teams don't matter.
     
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    This is what you said originally, stop ignoring it. NBC wont regret shit, no ones gives a shit if its Rodgers and Cutler playing or if its Foles and Orton playing.
     
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    WHAT are you talking about? I was the one who originally brought up that the ratings continuously go up no matter who is in it. Thats why I originally brought up the whole Super Bowl 42 vs 43 comparison.

    Your just agreeing with what ive been saying yet you originally called NBC's decision a mistake to choose the Cowboy game because you claimed Romo not playing would hurt it plus Rodgers playing would help the Packers rating which is far from the truth. It does not matter whos in it.
     
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    I'm not ignoring it. I'm sure NBC does regret the decision. I said it and repeated it. How am I ignoring it.

    They're both for the division, but Packers/Bears is more compelling now.

    Your saying "shit" over and over again doesn't make you right.
     
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    The fact that ratings continue to go up means that your comparison of SNF from 2001 to now is worthless. Seattle/St. Louis getting better ratings than a 2001 game does not prove a thing except that the SNF's ratings have grown, especially since SNF moved from cable to network TV.
     
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    QBs dont matter, thats why Foles vs Orton will have a higher rating than RG3 vs Romo. I know the ratings go up regardless but we are only talking about a one year difference right here and if your claim that whos playing QB has such a big impact than last years rating should be able to hold up over this matchup Sunday Night considering we have a backup going.
     
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    Its not more compelling man, both have the same thing on the line. NFL dont need QB's to get views. If Flynn went out there would be the same amount of interest.
     
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    I guess we'll see re: this year vs. last year. I don't know what last year's game got.
     
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    Also the only reason I brought up the Super Bowl 43 example was because people constantly talk about which matchup will draw the most especially in the preseason. The thing is, it doesnt matter what the matchup ultimately is. Before the season I heard "Broncos-49ers", "Patriots-Niners". It honestly does not matter who is playing in the Super Bowl, it will draw a higher rating than the last years. I remember Giants fans bragging how they had the most watched Super Bowl of all time, blah blah, as it turns out, a matchup that was no where near as compelling ended up setting the new record the following year. Thats why I said "its fun to talk about it, but its not real", because it isnt real. Matchups dont mean anything as far as the ratings will go and history has shown that.
     
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    recent week 17 SNFs:

    2009: Jets/Bengals, where it meant nothing to Cincinnati
    2010: Rams/Seahawks for the NFC West
    2011: Giants/Cowboys
    2012: Redskins/Cowboys
    2013: Eagles/Cowboys

    So the last three years have been Dallas every season against each of the other NFC East teams.
     
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    The Super Bowl is a huge event. I wouldn't argue matchups matter there. Almost everyone watches, sports fans and non-sports fans. That's regardless of the teams and players.

    I don't know who said the Cardinals SB wouldn't have good ratings but I definitely never said that.

    I've been talking about regular season games, where the NFL can attract casual viewers who might not watch otherwise. Matchups matter, teams matter, and players matter for those.
     
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    This hopefully will be my final post on this subject. I already conceded a point, so I am not looking to "win" any argument here.

    As a football fan, I don't see either game as more compelling than the other. By far, the Bears are my favorite of the four teams here (actually 3rd favorite team after the Jets and Cardinals) and even with more personal interest in the GB-CHI game I still cannot call it more compelling. These two games are even. Four mediocre teams going at it for division titles with the loser not making the playoffs.
     
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    Can Orton pull this off, in an odd way I think he gets the job done. I have no basis to believe this at all but I think it might just be his night.
     
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    I never said you said it, im just saying what the consensus was saying prior to the NFC championship. I remember people saying "hopefully Philly gets in or else we have a boring matchup on our hands", I recall many people saying how it had no chance after last year and as it turned out it did better.
     
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    Championship games are the only games that tend to draw different ratings depending on whose playing. Matchups in the Championship Games do matter. The 2006 AFC championship still holds the record I believe. Week 17 it does not matter though, history has shown.
     
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    Players aside, the NFC North game is expected to be closer and thus a better game.

    Philly is -6.5
    GB is -2.5 or -3 depending on the book

    both games are for the division
    both games involve rivalries and big fanbases

    but one game just lost a star and the other gained a star

    Rodgers returning is intriguing. Will he be rusty? Will he aggravate the injury?

    The bigger draw for the Dallas game was the "Romo chokes" storyline. With that gone, I think the game becomes less compelling.


    Again, it will get good ratings anyway, because it's a meaningful game on SNF. But I think Packers/Bears would've had better ratings had it been flexed.
     
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    I agree the story line is in the Packer game. Im sure Aikman would have loved to get the Dallas game, I know he wanted it and was pulling for Green Bay to be on Sunday Night.
     

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