Week 10 - Patriots @ Jets discussion thread

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Johnny English, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. rholt168

    rholt168 Active Member

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    They are still 5-3 and they still are the Pats. Let them be favored, being the underdog makes the victories much sweeter.
     
  2. bucknasty

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    no we are favorites but home team usually gets -3 automatically
     
  3. rholt168

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    Oh I miss read it. I assumed it was the Pats were -1 favorites.
     
  4. Big Blocker

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    Unless turnovers win it for NE, I actually don't see how the Jets can lose this weekend. I can't remember the last time I felt this way with the Pats coming up. Maybe 98.

    The Jets are playing well, and meanwhile NE is looking vey fragile. Their D is bad. Their OL is not nearly as good as it used to be. The RB's are decent, but Brady pretty much has only Welker and the two TE's to throw to. He's not on the same page yet with Chad. And he doesn't like pressure, only now he sees more and more of it.

    Jets win by at least a TD.
     
  5. Johnny English

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    I think we need to be careful not to read too much into their result yesterday, other than the effect it will have on the Patriots' mental state to be coming into our house off the back of two successive defeats. The Giants are a very different match up to the Jets on both sides of the ball, our offence doesn't stretch the field the way that Manning and his receivers do and the Jets don't bring pressure like Tuck and Osi can.

    As ever, I'm worried about how we handle their tight ends. Take those options away from Brady and I think we win, but we know and the Patriots know that coverage up the middle from LBs and safeties is our big weakness on defence.
     
  6. TommyGreen

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    Fans better be out in full force on Sunday, and loud as a motherfuck.

    The game still scares me since it's the Pats, and they're coming off a tough home loss, but we should beat them.
     
  7. BK_Jetsfan

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    Best post I've seen in here. I should only hope the players are as confident as the fans are. But realizistically speaking, they still have two tight-ends we've had some trouble dealing with. Welker is ALWAYS a thorn in the Jets side (even his days in Miami).

    All of that said, the defense seems to really be taking this team on its back. Wilson, Strockland and even Pool seem to be really trying to do their best. DeVito coming back and hopefully Ellis in there will also help big time. Excited about this game.
     
  8. soxxx

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    People finally giving us the respect. Its no long "will the Jets be able to beat the Patriots", its "will the patriots be able to beat the Jets".
     
  9. 85inthehall

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    This game is beyond huge..look at the schedules for the Jets and Pats the rest of the way after this game. Pats play one game I see them losing and that is against the Eagles. Aside from that they should run the table and finish at 11-5.

    The Jets have two games after this week that are dangerous - Eagles/Giants. Assuming they beat NE and lose those two they finish 11-5 also.

    11-5 will be the wild card this year out of the east.

    The west is one team, south will be one team, north will be Pitt and Balt...but Cinci could pull off 10-6 if they get one upset.
     
  10. PatsFanTX

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    Good point, when was the last time the Pats lost 3 in a row?
     
  11. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    02 lost 4 in a row
     
  12. Johnny English

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    Irrelevant. You play each game on its individual merits.

    The only factor in having lost two successive is that it can put doubts into the minds of the team as to their abilities - that's why mediocre teams often go on winning or losing streaks - but the Patriots are too well coached and too experienced for that to be significant in this game. The biggest factor is that because of the results of the two teams, the crowd are going to be fired up like you won't believe. The atmosphere is going to be ferocious and that can only help the Jets.
     
  13. 85inthehall

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    I agree -- but stats are fun too look at. What is in the Pats heads right now is they have gone from scoring 30+ a game to 20, 17, 20 in their last three. Teams are getting more physical with them and they aren't responding. Brady is getting hit more and he does not like that. That kind of stuff gets in the head of a team if you can make them doubt who they are and if who they are will work against physical teams.
     
  14. PatsFanTX

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    Good post, and if the Pats come out flat and get smoked by the Jets they will spiral out of control for the remainder of the season.
     
  15. Skicats

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    IMO, Ellis will be inactive, even if he is healthy.
     
  16. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    the reason the patriots are struggling is because Rex and Rob basically gave them blueprint for teams to beat them. They have no vertical threats and everything is condensed from short to middle of the field. You keep everything around the line of scrimmage and be physical and it's tough for them to be the team they've been in the past.

    the patriots will try and adjust but it's kind of hard when you don't have the personnel. The other thing with the pats is their protection hasn't been as good and you can tell Brady looks uncomfortable.

    Their problem comes down to the players they have. BB and TB combo will only get you so far without the supporting cast. The key is stopping their run this time around. Their running game hasn't done anything the past 2-3 games and they've struggled big time.

    The crowd is going to be fired up for this game and i expect multiple delay of game penalties.

    I think our offensive gameplan will be much better this time around
     
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  17. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    it'll be interesting to see what comes of the injuries to Spikes and Guyton. If they lose either or both of those guys it'll be tough for them. Spikes has played pretty well lately. I think Guyton is garbage but the guy still is better than what they have behind him and he occasionally makes a big play
     
  18. Hobbes3259

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    When Schotty stops jacking off over the offensive Porn he created yesterday (finally), and starts working on the game plan, hopefully the TE's will be in the same place as the Bills were yesterday.

    On the sideline for 10 minutes at a time.
     
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    yeah because if I remember correctly, it was the offense that lost the first match up against the Pats. Too many 3 and outs in my opinion cost us that game.

    Things I think will be different is that this time we will attack their secondary and I expect Keller to have a HUGE game. Heath M. raped them up the middle and I want Keller to do the same.
     
  20. PatsFanTX

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    So the defense had nothing to do with it in the 4th quarter when the Pats ran the ball down the Jets throats going on a 13 play, 69 yard drive pretty much clinching the game?

    One 3-and-out by the defense on that drive gets the ball back to the offense down only 6 points.

    That was the key to the first game.
     

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