The Jets cannot win unless they make the passing game effective against the Pats. All you guys are writing about how to stop the Pats, instead of how to beat them. If the Jets have an ineffective passing game, and allow the Pats to jump on the run, the Jets will be killed. Ball control will be important, but if the running game is predictable and the passing game ineffective, the jets are screwed...
The only way the Jets win is if Pennington finally shows he is the pro bowler most on the board think he is. The Pats will be coming in to destroy the Jets and send a message from the first snap.
What like hope, Warren, Harrison & Neal are out then hope the #2 WR is in a cast and hope the WR fumbles inside their 20 and hope for a downpour oh and hope Caldwell and Gaffrey are the starting WR's instead of Stallworth and Moss. Yeah the Jets should be able to put that together in week 1 vs. the Patriots.
Boyeeee... We are milking that week 10 victory until nothing is left of it.. Geeeezzz... One season has nothing to do with the other.. :breakdance:
I thought I asked a decent question here. Obviously it's a hypothetical question given the time of year but still, a decent question. For the number of good football fans on here I'm surprised at the lack of good answers to the original question. Oh well, I guess it's too early for ya'll to think about football like this.
One season (not resulting in a Lombardi) doesn't mean much usually, and one game means less, but the fact that a rebuilding team with a gutted roster, new schemes all around and a staff made up mostly of rookie coaches beat the mighty Pats in Foxboro, no matter which players they had out of the game. With Kevan Barlow starting at RB. The Pats are a team that won a championship with Troy Freaking Brown and a couple of drippy-eared youths playing at corner. That may not mean much to you, but I know it meant something to Belichick's ego. Which is why so many people made so much of the 'handshake' nonsense after the game. No intelligent coach just blows off a home loss like that to a division rival. Honestly, although the game pumped me up for our CS, I don't put much weight behind that one game. But when you're in the same division with a team that constantly puts it together year after year, you take what you can get.
Great Post.. I can see your very passionate about your Jets.. My point was that game is long and gone.. Did it hurt Billy Boy? I guess so.. All that victory did was pencil the Jets in for the wildcard, from a Patriots fan point of view.. The great thing for this coming season is that the Jets will be on teams radars, and not surprising anyone.. That's kudos Mangini's way, he's building a good program in NY.. As a ex Jets coach once said "Let's not put him in Canton just yet"...
I'm tentative about putting all of my faith in our FO/CS right now... not only because I allowed myself to be deceived by Herm for half a decade, but also because I've seen coaches come into the league and surprise teams with The Unknown, only to be gameplanned with a year of film and get wiped out the next season. It happens a lot. However, Mangini and Schott made their name last season by evolving gameplans week by week, taking a different approach to system coaching than most teams/coaches do. Or that's how it appears on the surface, at least. Last season, Mangini made it known that this approach was his main reason for hiring Lil Schott, unpredictability as the norm. I don't know if this approach will pan out for the team's long-term success, but it gives me hope where I only had loads of doubt before.
whine whine whine. Injuries are part of the game,we were the better team,stop whining about how you would of won if you were fully healthy.
The thing that's keeping me hopeful at the moment is that Mangini was really not visibly fazed by anything last season, either in the preparation for or management of games. I'm not thrilled with the hand he's going to be playing this season but it's probably no worse than what he had to work with last year, when you factor in the likely injuries that the Jets largely ducked in 2006. I'm not as concerned about teams predicting his behavior as that his own players will be a step ahead of the game. Mangini kept most of the roster offbalance, insecure and accordingly very productive for their talent level during the 2006 season. That's a Belichik characteristic and was a key factor in how the Jets turned from the easy win into the tough loss for most of the mediocre teams (and one very surprised Patriot's team) on their schedule. It's going to be easy for a few people to backslide this year unless Mangini has some more tricks up his sleeve. I'm going to be watching Chad very closely in training camp. If he's really fighting for his job then things bode well for 2007. If he's just prepping for the season we could have a problem. Everybody else on the team is going to be watching him out of the corner of their eyes also.
Here the game plan for Jets. Moss is the key. When randy Moss is running real hard off the line of scrimmage, very good chance hes getting the ball. That means jets have to drop more defenders deep(R moss rarely goes over the middle- dosen't like the contact. Now when Randy moss is going half speed off the line of scrimmage, than you don't have to double or triple team him, as the you know the ball not going his direction. Key on the other weapons. Jets are going tyo have to get pressure on brady. R Moss might still possess that great speed, but it just takes him alot longer to reach that top speed these days.
The Pats have an attacking style of defense we must counter that with screens and zone blocking run plays to create 1 on 1 situations with our backs and their defenders. The progressions should start between the ILB and OLB and advance to the deep 3rd areas of their defense. I have always thought they were vunerable in the quarter seems because the backers play so deep. I would flood those zones. Keep Brady on the run "he is not effective throwing on the run" keep him moving either left or right and play plenty of Man-zone. give Moss the under routes and bang him up when he gets the ball play him over the top and stop any possibility of yards after the catch. Double the back out of the backfield on every third down, this is something that has killed us everytime we have faced them.
Maybe not,but he was quite clearly implying that the reason for the pats losing in week 10 was because if injuries,the weather and mental mistakes.
