There is just no way of knowing that Justice would fall and I don't think he would have been an option for us anyway.. If one thing was clear from the first draft of the Tangini era it is that they value character as much as anything. Its easy to look back and say they could have done this or that but in reality they did what they thought to be best for the franchise. Noone on here wanted Leinart more than me but I completely respect the FO for not giving in to the pressure of taking him..They had a plan and stuck to it..
How many "coulda woulda" should of, I want these...Threads are you gonna make? Is Clemens Akili or Harrington? Worst draft ever? Good start to the board...
Well I'll add my 2 cents in ... Been watching/reading this board for ages and have been a Jets fan since 1968 ... IMHO Leinart is going to be the next Ryan Leaf ... A BUST ... I really liked the pick of Clemmens ... Ol' Matt was the product of superior talent around him, not his ability ...
I JUMPED FOR JOY WHEN WE PASSED ON LEINART. There, I've said it, and I'm glad. I think Mangini and Tannenbaum accomplished what they set out to do, and I'm feeling pretty good about how it turned out. Plus, seeing Leinart look like his puppy died every time someone took a pass... Hardy har har. :lol:
When Texas took Mario my worst fear was taking Leinart. As much as I wasn't for D'Brick compared to Leinart it was a great pick and it took guts.
Leinart was so convinced he was going to NY he probably had on green boxer shorts. Look, not only was drafting Leinart a bad idea because of all the things mentioned, signing him would have cost us a fortune too. At the end of the day, we'd be sitting with a very expensive 1st-Round QB pick plus an already very expensive QB (Pennington) and another QB (Ramsey) who is also in the mix. And all this, with still no protection on the blind side. No, we did the right thing there. We've got a guy who will make the pro bowl and be with us for 10 years.
I like Ferguson and am glad we picked him, but let me play devil's advocate here - if both Ferguson and Leinart become perenial pro bowl players, did we make the wrong choice?
NOT where the Jets wanted to be. I screamed, "HOLYSMOKESSONOFAB*TCH, I will stab myself in the face...!" An 11th hour reprieve from the Governor, WB. It made it gutsy because they didn't expect to be faced with Leinart sitting there at #4 and they decided his hair looked stupid above all else. Stupid hair, who needs it. I can't worry how this guy's hair turns out elsewhere. That's for Matt Carr, er, I mean David Leinart and the Cards to worry about - read between the lines and wrap your Monday Morning Mind around that analogy. So we would have had another high priced guy we couldn't have protected anyway? Greeeeeaaaaat. I'm essentially happy on this day.
Leinart may or may not be a bust, I have no idea. However, I wouldn't go off comparing him to David Carr who did it 1 season for a up and coming, but not big, program at the time. Leinart did it at USC for 3 yrs against tough competition.
I'm talking more about how things stand today. A comparable situation. Leinart without protection, what good is it. Leinart also had a great supporting cast, which I think made him look better than he really is. I wasn't necessarily calling Carr a bust, either. I think it's somewhat unfair when the guy's been sacked 200+ times - and he's still alive. Who knows, he may be psychologically damaged beyond repair, but that's yet to be seen. And, who needs a coiffe like that in NY, I ask you. Delay of Game: Leinart is preening himself at the line of scrimmage.
This "we coulda had Leinart and Justice" business is good if you like drafting big names and use Street&Smith's annual draft review to make decisions. Fact is, there were issues with Leinart that scared away a lot of teams, not just the Jets. The Raiders, Bills and Lions passed on him for Christ's sake, and their qb situations are just as open-ended as the Jets'. He was not a clearcut blue chipper. Justice had even more issues, and he's not even as good as Ferguson.
Im going to have to disagree with that statement. Before chad got injured throwing in Giants stadium was not a problem. I personally would have traded the 1st 2nd and 3rd that detroit wanted. Im also happy with clemens, while im not ready to get in bed with him like most people who already have clemens for an avatar, I think that kid can be decent if not good. I say the throw for 63 yards, and boy was that a beauty. Who knows what will happen in training camp. We'll soon see.
LMAO! That was funny. His head in his hands, on the phone... When he got to AZ, In his interview he said NY would have been nice and he was already complaining about the heat.. "It's like 100 Degrees out here today" :lol:
That's funny, really funny... him complaining. I've got news for him, if he thinks Arizona is hot now, he ain't seen nothin' yet. It's only April. 100 degrees is cool spring weather for those dudes. What a putz. My daughter went to Arizona State at Tempe and I took her out there in the month of August.... like to died. Wait until Leinart has to work out at TC in August out there. Make matters worse, it sometimes actually rains out there early in the morning in August, so even if you get up at 5am to work out, you sweat like a pig from the heat AND humidity. You walk outside and it's like a friggin' steambath. "Dry heat" my ass. It's hot as hell out there. Leinart's gonna be whining up a storm.
