And, regardless of their appearance, both those coaches share the middle of the league at 97 penalties on the season for 16th and 17th place which may be the best across the board indicator of how well prepared a team is week in and week out. I don't care an ounce what the coach looks like. Of course, the Jets did find a place here to lead the league - I don't think coaching performance is as equal as you do.
The feeling I always get when watching the playoffs nowadays is that, do the Jets even exist in the NFL anymore.
What I notice: 1. QB's are critical. Legs, decisiveness, short throws, etc. 2. OL is huge. TE and RB's make a big difference with short passing due to how quick the DL is in the playoffs. 3. Coaching. We have none of the 3 right now. AR, TBD.
It’s interesting…just heard that GB was the first 7 seed to win a playoff game since they expanded to 7 teams in each conference Just goes to show it wasn’t needed and all it did was water down the playoffs…just a money grab by the league to add another playoff game when it wasn’t necessary at all from a competitive standpoint
Under no circumstance was the triad of Wilson, Boyle and Siemian in front of that Oline going to be a capable playoff team. As hapless as Hackett is, this disaster of a season is squarely on the ineptness of the Front Office. The risks of a spiraling season were obvious, and they sat on their hands. I’ve never seen anything quite like it.
In previous years it may have watered down the playoffs. This year it did the opposite. If there were six seeds, the matchups still would have been Chiefs-Dolphins, Texans-Browns, Lions-Rams, and Bucs-Eagles. Three shitty games out of four. We would have been spared Bills-Steelers, but the Cowboys would be in the divisional round instead of the Packers, and we'd have missed out on postseason Jordan Love.
Let's talk about "nerds" and football. Bill Walsh and Dick Vermeil. Neither one played a down of professional football and, without digging too hard, would probably come to find that neither of them played D1 football either. My guess is they both went to "small" schools and...I stopped here and checked. Straight up, Bill Walsh was a defensive end for San Jose State and Dick Vermeil was a backup QB for, you guessed it, San Jose State! Wow, maybe we need to go find former San Jose State players who are now NFL coaches. LOL I digress... Neither of those guys played pro football and they BOTH were slight men. Vermeil reminds me of McDaniel the most. Either way, those two men, the GROUND they walked on was respected by everyone that was in the NFL while they were in the league and you can damn sure bet they will be respected for a century to come. Doesn't matter the stature, if you treat them like men, put them in a position to succeed and give the respect then you'll garner the same respect back, no matter how big and menacing the NFL player...
Coaching is a huge part of it, no doubt. Pete Carroll wants to be a Head Coach again. He would turn the Jets into a contender in two years. Woody doesn't really want to win. If he did then he'd have the balls to make a move like this. He doesn't. The Jets will ONLY ever build a winning program if they get lucky by some chance and Woody hits a home run hire with a GM and/or Head Coach. Otherwise they will be doomed to his overinvolvement in all football decisions and this vicious losing cycle will continue in perpetuity.
Yeah and its interesting in that for whatever reason, it just feels to me like AR would be fine with Carroll…nothing to go on other than just a gut feeling…Carroll seems like a players type coach but has actually gotten results and, you know, WON stuff. And he freaking moved on from Russell Wilson with Geno fucking Smith and did well. A lot of that team’s success was the drafting by Schneider I’m sure, but man, Carroll would be a huge upgrade and instant credibility for us. It’ll never happen I know, but we can dream!
i agree so why doesn't saleh get any credit for our def...majority of the board just give credit to ulbrich and blame any failures on saleh.
Saleh gets criticized mostly for his game planning, preparation and personnel on the offensive side of the ball from what I can see. The belief is the he was a solid DC that is way over his head as HC.
Yup…the defense is very good, and Saleh does and should get all the credit for that. However, if you break it down, even in his own words, “a monkey could run this defense”…what I take from that is that it’s not a good defense because of some crazy advanced scheme or design, it’s just predicated on a simple philosophy of attack the ball on DL (i.e. as compared to the more Parcells-like “read and react 2 gap scheme”)…and then it needs very good individual athletes who can win one on one battles…and we have that at all levels…Q as DT is an attacking DT…we have several very good edge rushers…no one elite guy like a TJ Watt or Nick Bosa, but with Huff, JJ, JFM that’s a good stable of above average guys that we rotate to keep fresh. At LB both Mosley and Quincy are good athletes, and of course we have 2 great corners. So a lot of the credit to the defensive success should also go to JD for getting a bunch of those guys who can win one on one as that’s what the defense requires. So it’s a good marriage there with the GM and HC on the same page as to what’s needed on D. The problem, and where Saleh gets rightfully criticized, is that for as good as Saleh is on D, he has sucked on O. There is no consistent scheme, the team on O is very undisciplined and we get way too many pre snap penalties, and we don’t fully utilize the talent we have…I think it’s criminal for an OC to say something like “we didn’t know how good Breece was in the passing game” in week 17. Criminal. Hey, OC…how about it’s your fucking JOB to KNOW what your players do best, and then create a scheme that showcases that. Literally the job of a coach. Now granted, the OL has been hit with a ton of injuries and has been among the worst in the league, and couple that with a terrible QB in Zach and it’s hard to see any coach succeed with all that. However, I believe that had we had better offensive coaching across the board (OL coach, QB coach, OC), our offense would have been better. We weren’t the only team with OL injuries…look across the draft talk and there are plenty of teams looking for OL help this offseason. A better coaching staff would have developed Zach better too…he had 2 good games this year…KC and Houston. So while he may be a lost cause now, I fully believe that a better offensive coaching staff would have fielded a much better offense even with our current personnel. So Saleh is the HC, not the DC…and he owns the whole team. It sucks because with coaches like Vrable and Carroll available, we could honestly upgrade right away…not gonna count Belichick because fuck him, but I’d take either of those guys in a minute over Saleh. But looks like Saleh will be back along with JD, and at least I think it’s pretty clear that 2024 has to be a win now / playoffs mandate or else I think Woody does clean house…
If you think the Miami Dolphins played a well-coached game against the Chiefs, I have no idea what to say. Name one aggressive play the Dolphins ran against the Chiefs. And I am not talking about 4th and 1 runs up the middle. There was not ONE SINGLE deep ball thrown down the field to Hill OR Waddle. That was a disgraceful display of Coaching. Absolutely disgraceful.
