Watching NE last night

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  1. Royal Tee

    Royal Tee Girls juss wanna have fun
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    He was also getting hit alot.....



    OOooooh!!!!!!

    btw, nice dish !
     
  2. 1968jetsfan

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    to be fair the main reason New England recievers always seem to have so much separation on receptions is that Brady is good at recognizing it before the break occurs and has the ball waiting for the reciever to run in to it.

    Good QB's see the separation before it occurs, mediocre QB's see Separation only after it has occured, and by then it's too late.
     
  3. FJF

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    this. and it goes back to rex's first day here. if he wanted to ground and pound there was no need to trade up to 5 for a qb.game managers can be had later.
    if they wanted to go up for a franchise qb commit to him. build around him and make sure when players leave there is a suitable replacement if not upgrades ready to step in.
     
  4. mo_lewis

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    You never want to go through what the Bills fans went through with Kelly. Getting that close and missing (and again and again and again) is worse if you degrade back to mediocrity without a VLT. I would have been part of a Scott Norwood me murder suicide if I was a Bill's fan. Marino and the Marks were a different story. Glory year(s) weren't five decades removed. But Marino himself had to have eaten his own spleen when Dilfer hoisted the Lombardi.

    The Jets are going to get there, and when they do, it will be so much more delicious for the years of frustration.
     
  5. KWJetsFan

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    I hear what you are saying, but I would love for the Jets to dominate the AFC for that length of time. I can imagine losing 4 straight SB's is a brutal, frustrating experience, but not even making the SB for over 40 years is agonizing.
     
  6. CJLang

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    The Jets are like the Cubs. They flirt with very good from time to time, but it always seems to be fleeting.

    The Bills were more like the pre-2004 Red Sox. Time after time they could get you right on the verge of a giant climax, only to punch you in the balls at the last minute. (1967, 1975, 1986, 2003, just to name a few of the bigger disappointments)
     
  7. Greeny

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    What the Pats are doing is historical. Their literally rewriting the history books. They wrote the blueprint on how to dominate in the salary cap era. Unfortunately there's only one Brady and BB. Hoe many other teams can you name that are contenders every single year. I mean the jets arnt even on their rader. I think you can count on one hand how many times we beat them in the BB/Brady era.

    Jets will never get to their level. Best we can hope for is contending 4-5 years from now and the entire sports world not to :rofl: at us.
     
  8. ArmandJ

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    Do you spit or swallow?
     
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    Concern troll?

    dude, they got lucky with a 6th round pick. Without their QB they're a 6-10 team.
     
  10. displacedfan

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    The blueprint is building up your offense, forgetting your defense, and blowing a 18-0 team and losing to to a Giants team that put up 21 and 17 points to beat you?

    The had the blueprint about 10 years ago, they haven't found it. The Steelers and Giants arguably have the blueprint right now. The Pats have been playing catchup because of their lack of the run game and defense. The Packers fell into the same trap last year. You need a whole team, something the Pats MIGHT have found again this year.
     
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    nothing new. Refs extending drives, Welker ALWAYS open on 3rd downs, Wilfork taking cheap shots that are never called, scoring non-stop, and the list goes on.
     
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    didnt they lose their qb for the year a few years ago and go 11-5 with a guy named cassel?
     
  13. mo_lewis

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    Historical? Six VLT's are historical. The pats are going to lose in this order
    Brady (retire)
    Belichick (retire - same year if he is smart)
    Kraft (die - he is always half in the bag and has a 20 year old wife. Some massive viagra alcohol combination is going to kill him, heard that makes you see blue, ironically and sad, and his son is a putz)
    Pats were a phone call away from being the St. Louis Stallions and the Zeke Mowat and Barbara Borin days are lurking. Watch that schadenfreude, it is bad juju. And be respectful here, these are fans of the game. And GODDAMNIT, Parcells saved the Pats from being a joke forever.
     
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    Lets all face the truth. The current Texans defense wasn't as good as it was at the beginning of the season. After the injury to Cushing they have been sliding downhill from there. Rodgers tore up this defense a few weeks ago and now Brady has done it.
     
  15. At this point I don't care how N.E. does it, how the Jets compare or how teams defend the Pats. I just want it to end. It's been a decade..can't football be good again?
     
  16. Br4d

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    The Pats are based around a $20 million a year QB and a bunch of other guys who get paid like normal NFL working stiffs. That's why they work. The one superstar is worth every penny and the clubhouse never gets bent out of shape because there are no divas making big bucks behind him.

    When the Pats have had the divas they have gotten rid of them as soon as they started to wear on the clubhouse, see Randy Moss as exhibit A.

    Yeah, the Pats do pay Wilfork and a couple of guys in the intermendiate ranges of star level pay but they're very careful not to spend money like that unless the guy is worth more than he is making and everybody in the clubhouse knows it.

    Look at the Pats salaries in 2013 as an example, before they have dicked around with the cap for the year. Brady 9.5M, Wilfork 6.5M, Mankins 5.75M, Stephen Gostkowski (the kicker no less) $2.5M, Connolly 2.25M, nobody else over 2M for the year.

    That's just a huge parity payroll. Big money in one guy, midrange in two others and then the crowd. That's how you keep a clubhouse from pointing fingers.

    Now the Jets situation is complicated by the pending cuts but there is nothing like that kind of parity in the Jets payroll.

    The difference between the Jets and the Pats is the difference between trading up a lot for players you will have to pay alot if they work out and just taking your picks as they fall, secure in the knowledge that the first contract and very likely the second will both be manageable.
     
  17. Greeny

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    All I'm saying is their superior in every way. They draft better , develop players better , are better with contracts , better with fas etc.

    And they are rewriting the books. Brady and BB could leave tomm. and they would still have a better team.
     
  18. Br4d

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    I really disagree on this. I think when Brady leaves they take a big step down and then if Belichik can't find another great QB they come back to earth.

    The Pats were 5-11 his first year as head coach, with Drew Bledsoe at QB, a convenient fact that everybody forgets. That 5-11 was their worst record in years.

    Brady goes, Pats go to 10-6 overnight if they're lucky. If Belichik can't find another great QB then they're in the muck like every other franchise not named Steelers or Packers.

    You may want to think otherwise but I'll take 5-11 x 2 on you. That's Belichik's last two seasons before Brady arrived on the scene.

    And BTW, before you get too bent out of shape on this one I'd remind you to go look at the Colts. QB's really can be the only thing that really matters in the end.
     
  19. Greeny

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    Jet fans would blow a homeless guy for 10-6.

    Are you really trying to say the Pats don't have a 100 X more talent than this sorry team. If Brady left tomm. Pats would be a good QB away from contending. Not a great QB , just a good QB. The jets are miles away from contending. Besides the secondary , the pats have more talent in every single area. In fact if they do get another pass rushers and DB the pats would have a top ten D.

    Pats have a better oline , rbs , wrs , tes , dline and backers. Not my opinion. Fact.

    Again if Brady left tomm. Pats would syllable be better. LOL I love how you said 10-6 like its a huge drop off. That's better than the last two years for the jets. Oh BTW the pats went 11-5 with M.C. , who is as bad as The Sancheeze. Another example at why their so much better than us.
     
  20. JUNJOBX2199

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    ......and to think Mo Lewis was the Anti Christ that doomed us to the football purgatory for all time. Sniff ... wimper....
     

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