Watch Chad's press conference from today...

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  1. Beamen

    Beamen New Member

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    Kevin Mawae gave his heart and soul to this team for years and was part of more successful Jets teams than was Chad... But when he suffered a major injury in 2005 and was seemingly on the decline, we released him the first chance we got, and drafted a replacement...

    Marvin Jones and Mo Lewis gave years and years of hard work and dedication to this team, and also saw more on-the-field success than Chad has... Yet when they started to slow down, we drafted replacements (Hobson/Vilma) and got rid of them ASAP....

    The same goes for countless guys throughout our, and other teams' histories....

    Loyalty to players on the decline does not win championships...

    He put a lot into this team? Great, when he ultimately retires, bring him back to honor him for a day, and give him a framed jersey and a Rolex like the other guys got...
     
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  2. GreenHornet

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    I think Kellen offers more options for the future of this particular ball club as long as he possesses the ability to lead. We really can't fully judge any of this until we get the offensive line fixed.

    Chad, even though I do like the guy; he did have 2 surgeries on his throwing shoulder and he has pins in his left hand plus he is 29/30 years old. We can still get a decent trade value for Chad provided he doesn't get his right shoulder exploded by the end of this season. That trade pick can help us with either the offensive or defensive lines.
     
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  3. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    gimme a break. Chad is one of the best QBs this team has ever had. "He is not a good qb" is asinine.
     
  4. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    So Kellen gets the benifit of the Oline excuse and Chad doesn't?:lol: Both playing behind the SAME oline,and Clemens showed shit,or less for 7 games.
     
  5. Angry Teste

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    I love Chad, but watching him go in on Sunday reminded me of Rob Johnson QBing the Buffalo Bills...
     
  6. GreenHornet

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    Chad, clearly, also can claim this excuse to his benching. Chad did not get benched because he was an awful QB, he was benched because we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by mid-season. Chad was having a down year because we had no running game at all (again) and he had no offensive line - couple all that together and Chad's deficiencies were magnified immensely.

    It was already apparent that the offensive line stunk, and it made sense to examine Clemens more closely and give him experience; Mangini probably was hoping for a spark, but our offensive line was so bad it was able to throw water on that, too. Clemens did have us in many of the games that we lost.

    Without the offensive line it is just too much for any QB to overcome. With Chad in we become even more limited than with Clemens in, but there is not really much seperation there either because both guys only have about 2 and half seconds to throw instead of the 4.5 seconds most QB's get, unless they are playing us; then there is time to eat a slice of pizza and then make the throw.
     
  7. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    The Jets have had about 6 quality season out of there starting QB's in the history of this franchise. Chad definitely was part of one of those 6 5 years ago. The fact that the Jets have been a franchise with crappy QB play for most of it's history doesn't change the fact that Chad is no longer a quality NFL QB.
     
  8. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    IMO,this is the first season he has been less than good while being healthy throughout. He was pretty good in 04 and 06 as well as 02.
     
  9. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    He has had one complete season last year and he was mediocre.
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    He was good but not great until he got hurt in 2004. After the injury he was basically playing on heart alone and did not play that well, although he had two good games left in him.

    In 2006 he was up and down and inconsistent as heck. Which is what his end of season stats reflect.

    If you look at Chad's career and assess it accurately you realize that he did not have more than 4 quality starts in a row after 2002 and not more than 3 in a row after mid-season. That's not the mark of a superior QB, it's the mark of a guy who took what the defense gave him until he ran into defenses that weren't in a charitable mood. It's also the mark of somebody who was frequently injured and wore down as the season progressed.
     
  11. Harpua

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    I love Chad's attitude. Its the phisical limitations I don't like. The injurys have added up over the years and I don;t think he has what it takes to be a starting NFL QB at this point. Would I mind if he somehow rebounded and became the QB we once thought was our future leader? Not at all. I jsut don;t see it happening
     
  12. GreenScreen313

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    what???

    I'm fine with people saying Chad isn't a QB that can lead a team to a Superbowl win and I'm fine with people saying Chad shouldn't be the starting QB for the Jets, but, its just silly to say that he doesn't meet the requirements of an NFL QB.

    two words: Eli Manning
     
  13. Beamen

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    Not every QB with adequate physical requirements succeeds, intangibles are important too...

    But it is very, very unlikely that a QB without adequate physical requirements will succeed in the NFL....
     
  14. pennington4life

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    he said in the news conference that he looks forward to throwin the ball deep and doesnt like checkin down but feels like he has to to make it a 3 and 5 instead of a 3rd in 10 it never really looks l.ike these receivers create alot of space, i know hes missin zip but the receivers have to find holes and the ol has to hold up... i think we will see some deep throws this weekend
     
  15. johnnysd

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    He WAS one of the best QBs the Jets have ever had. However, age, surguries, and poor decision making have affected his ability at QB. Mostly physical, but it has affected his overall play.

    NOW he is not a good QB. In fact, he is a BAD QB. Just because he was a good QB ar one time, is not relevant to what he is now.

    In fact, it is shocking to me that anyone can actually watch Chad this year and think that he is still a good QB. It is mind boggling to be honest. He is awful, and it is not just the running game (a problem he exacerbates badly)( or the OL. He is just bad. Especially against better defenses.

    How someone can think otherwise is beyond me. What he did before is completely and totally irrelevant to the player he is today. Maybe if he was never injured it would be different, but he was.
     
  16. JoeJet

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    I look forward to throwin the ball deep to the girl around the corner too , BUT IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN.
     
  17. ihatethedolphins3

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    1 play will always summerize chad's career to me....his deep ball perfect pass to santana moss vs the chargers in the playoffs with his arm hanging by a string....if he never had all those arm surgeries and had the same arm strength he did at marshall, it would be peyton, brady, and chad as the best qb's in the leauge, i said it and i stand by my word, it is a damn shame
     

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