what have you even said that remotely proves your point that mariota is more intelligent than them coming out of college?
Quoting what was said when he came out of college means nothing. That was all based on how he performed in college. The team he plays for now has several years of experience with him playing for them in the NFL and now he doesn't look so smart. People make mistakes, things change. Try to keep up. I thought my ex was a sweetheart and really loved me. I was totally wrong. Looks like the media "experts" that wrote all those things about RGIII were wrong too.
How about the fact that Mariota changed his line blocking protections 7-8 times a game and called audibles on plays 2-3 times a game? How about his coaches raving about how he mastered the offense, suggested thing in game plans, and how high his football IQ is?
What is this "proving" nonsense on the Internet. You haven't proved RG3 isn't dumber than a sack of bricks. Wasn't dumb then and isn't dumb now? You can quote all the draft blogs and draft guides you want. Thats not "proof". Draft guides are for shit. We're all just making conjectures. Me on what I've seen and you on what you've read. I don't think he's a smart QB. Not like Teddy. Or Carr. Or Mariota. Not as dumb as Geno. Why all the angst? Are you related to him? _
whatever jstokes, i can leave this argument knowing that you haven't given me a single reason to believe mariota is smarter than RG3 pre-draft i'm fine with that
I don't think you understand that I don't care whether you believe me or not. You can stick your head in the sand and believe RG3 is the greek philosopher Homer. Everyone else realizes he's Homer Simpson. Mmmmmm bacon. _
You really aren't that bright, are you Stokes ? He's not arguing that RG3 is Homer. Dom's point is that the very same kinds of people (draft experts, coaches and NFL Gurus) talking about Mariota's high football IQ talked about RGIII the same way before the draft, that he was very intelligent and that he had a high Football IQ.
I'm getting a kick out of this back and forth. It's like a movie, one of those scenes where the person who's in trouble could take 3 seconds to explain what really happened, and the other person would understand. But instead, they just defend the inaccurate charge and, of course, you now have an extra hour in the movie. JStokes, what Dom is trying to say but not explaining clearly, is that if both guys were coming out today, the reports would say the same thing, and three years from now might turn out to be wrong. He's not saying that RGIII is smart, or that Mariota is dumb. He's simply comparing them at a given point in time based on draft projections and expert analysis. Dom, JStokes is trying to say, but not, explaining clearly, that what they said about RGIII means nothing because he turned out to be dumb after all, and that he feels that Mariota has more football toys in the attic, and thus will not fall victim to being dumb as a bunch of rocks. He's basing this on his own analysis, not on the analysis of others. You guys get it now? Three pages of the same exact explanations had me feeling I was refreshing the page instead of turning it.
You're not very bright because he can throw out all the draft guides and blogs and articles he wants and I don't care what HE was arguing. My point has to do with MY view of the two players and their intelligence and football IQ as it appears to ME. Shouldn't you be stalking some Veteran Combine fan forum now that your savior Tebow is throwing his hat back in the ring? Btw, he'll miss the ring. _
I do agree with that one take. I don't remember hearing much about RG3 being dumb when he was coming out. There's a reason he was basically a lock for the 2nd pick. After watching him, its clear he doesn't have the acumen to be a superstar QB, or at least he hasn't developed that aspect of the game. It has yet to be seen if Mariota can develop that skill. QB's like RG3 and Mariota worked in systems that didn't really help them get ready for the NFL. But they're both intelligent kids so I guess that's what you need to look for if you're going to draft a spread QB. Either way, Mariota needs to sit, just like RG3 probably should have. He's smart enough that he should be able to learn the basics of being of QB next season while Fitzmagic plays.
This isn't about Mariota vs RG3 because I think most teams would take Mariota. Assuming the Redskins take Mariota, do the Jets want RG3? Basically, is he better than Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith? I think its a resounding yes. His stock is low now, so I can't imagine it would take more than the #37 pick to get him, considering the Redskins would still have Cousins and Mariota. That would give the Redskins two early 2nd round picks to build around Mariota. A draft where the Jets end up with RG3 and Fowler as their top two "picks" would be amazing. Griffin is 25 years old and might just need a change of scenery. I think he'd do quite well with Marshall and Decker as his receivers. Lets compare him to Geno Smith shall we? RG3 37 games played. 63.9%, 40 TD, 23 INT, 90.6 rating. Geno 30 games played. 57.5%, 25TD, 34 INT, 71.5 rating.
I like hundley, he is a tough kid and a competitor.... but i hate his throwing motion, it reminds me of vince youngs
i dont like this comparison because RG3 was great year 1 and not so much so after. his first season 20 TD/5 INT, 7 Rush TD, 102.4 QB Rating since 20 TD/18 INT, 1 Rush Td, 83.7 QB Rating Better then geno still? sure, but not nearly the same guy. id take year 1 RG3 in a split second, im not sure that guy will ever exsist again and his durabiltiy worries me. unless i can get him for a conditional pick in the 4th-7th round range id pass.
