Was this game Rex's final act?

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  1. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

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    That's a supposition I don't agree with - I don't think teams are going to jump at him - other than maybe Chicago, based on his dad's legacy, not his. The combination of his failures here, the circus act baggage he brings, and maybe even his brother's failures, will give teams pause when maybe considering him for a coach in any capacity. Remember, Baltimore let him walk away very easily when the Jet job opened up. They might have known something.
     
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  2. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Rex is a great coach, I don't care how you try to spin it. He will find a job, with ease. You don't have as many players backing up a coach the way they do without being a great coach. That goes back to even the Baltimore days.
     
  3. Wahoo

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    The players back him up because there is no accountability with him. "Club Rex" is a well known fact. Players (other than Esiason) loved Rich Kotite for the same reason. It has nothing to do with coaching ability. And hate to point it out again, but where was all the love for Rex during the myriad games that the team didn't bother to show up? He may catch on as a DC somewhere, and maybe have success riding on the coattails of a good team and a good head coach. But success with Rex as the leader? Never happen. Never ever ever happen. Not in this league.
     
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    the Ravens knew they couldn't keep him after going with Harbaugh as head coach. they certainly weren't looking to move on from him as DC, as his defenses were among the best in the league every year as DC there. He got promoted to a HC, which is why he left.

    On the Jets, his defenses continued to be among the top in the league, with 2009 being by far the best in league.
    Even with literally no secondary these last 2 years, they are top half.
    the only DC i can think of with as much consistency is Dick Lebeau, whose team is also struggling with the secondary as of late.

    In terms of his brother, his turnaround of the Saints D in 2013 was literally historic, while the Cowboys completely flipped in the opposite direction without him.

    none of your points are valid.
    in terms of teams offering him jobs, we'll see soon enough. I guarantee you he'll have an offer as a DC.
     
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    Kinda reminds me a bit of when Tony Dungy went to Indy after TB.
     
  6. NCJetsfan

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    I totally disagree. That's exactly who Rex is. This is the guy that says "FU" to fans and reporters.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

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    And we'll see how he fares in that new DC position. Dollars to doughnuts he'll do no better than he has here. He's a fraud and a phony.
     
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    The opposing OC can look forward to 3rd down blitzes no matter what.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

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    I don't want him fired now. The team might actually play well enough to win a game or two if someone else replaces him. He's made this stinking pile of shit, let him wallow in it and choke on it for the rest of the season, then kick his stupid ass to the curb.
     
  10. Br4d

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    I don't think Rex is getting a job as a HC if the Jets let him go, not anytime soon. All the conspiracy theories about Idzik was out to get Rex and Rex is out to get Idzik miss the basic fact that 2-10 has damaged both men heavily and Rex more than Idzik at this point.
     
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    The defenses he had in Balt and the NYJ performed quite well, and they will continue to elsewhere.
    What current DC's actually have a better track record?

    The better argument would be whether he gets another HC opportunity, and whether he can succeed at that opportunity.
    That part i'm not so sure of, unless there is a solid QB already in place.
     
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    Are you kidding, if he tries to lose he's helping Idzik at this point get a high draft pick.
     
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    i don't think you had to go any further than 2-10 in your point. The proof is in the record. Conspiracy theories don't really matter.
    it's tough to get another HC job after that, so that is a pretty valid argument.

    These knuckleheads in their hatred for Rex are trying to state he won't get another DC opportunity, as if he sucks as a defensive coach.
     
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    Agreed. If a HC could have his "brand" tarnished, Rex certainly has accomplished that over these last several seasons. He's now known as an old school coach that refuses to embrace modern football to the point that he'll ok a gameplan so retro that it had most people thinking Army/Navy 1957. Idzik's "brand" is one of an incompetent GM that's in over his head. Both men have quite a ways to go to rehab their respective images and in the short term, it will damage both.
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    You can't be serious. Geno has been bad, but Vick has been as bad or worse. Two games he played in he wasn't even freaking ready to play. Vick has just been sitting on his ass and came here to get a paycheck, period.
     
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    I don't think he tried to lose. But he certainly went out of his way to not let Geno Smith throw the football and thats the problem. He's in there because the Jets need to see him throw it the final 5 weeks of the season.

    Yes, it would appear pretty obvious that Smith isn't the answer at this point but whats he in there for if your not going to it least give him a chance to prove something to you in a disaster season?
     
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    Word.
     
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    Look at the talent, discipline and veteran player leadership he has on the Ravens defense. He did really well with the Jets for about a minute (a half season, maybe a season), then it's been downhill ever since. He is an overrated blowhard.
     
  19. Wahoo

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    Yea, the stats all sound great. Until you look closely at them. Take this season - Jets are 7th in the league in total D. Sounds pretty good, right? Untill you look closely - they've given up 27 points a game and 322 yds total offense a game. Thats a great D?

    Here's what I've seen over 6 seasons - a defense that consistantly gives up leads - a defense that never makes a stop in a big situation - a defense that didn't show up for two of the biggest games in Jets history, the AFC championship games - a defense that dominated for the first half of Rex's first season and as been average or slightly above average since - a defense that is undisciplined, often penalized, and never forces a turn over. All of this despite being stocked with early round draft picks.

    The stats have help build the myth of Rex Ryan. I'll believe what I see on the field.
     
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    I'll agree with you there. Vick is disinterested in playing.
    The QB situation is as dire as 2012.

    I'd play Vick at this point tho, just to make him earn the check. Smith is shell shocked.
     

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