Was Saleh the right hire??

Of course he is. Wirfs was there for the taking and Wirfs has been an absolute stud with zero injury concerns. Wirfs is already one of the best RT's in the NFL. It's perfectly fair to think he'd at least be a decent LT with that in mind.

These injury concerns with Becton were entirely predictable. Injury concerns are the norm for people as big as Becton, not the exception. JD should've realized that and didn't.

 

Didn't LDT just waive his no-trade clause because he believes in what the Jets are building? Carl Lawson signed here for the same reason, and I think Rankins as well. They aren't top shelf talent, but they're pretty damn good and better than anything we've had recently in the way of FA signings. JD believes in building through the draft. That's why he hasn't overpaid previously, but I think he will this coming offseason. He almost has to. He didn't want to wind up in cap hell, with all the dead money from Mac's FA signings and with Mosely's huge contract. He wanted to be able to re-sign players like JFM and Fatukasi, and Adams, if Adams hadn't turned into such an asshat. The guy can't win. He's trying to handle the cap responsibly so he can keep good Jets players and then fans can't complain about that, but then other fans complain that he's being cheap and shopping at the Dollar Store.

JD not only has a better eye for talent, but he knows how to evaluate players for scheme fit, he doesn't get raped in trades or negotiating. Fans should be happy that he's added so many top draft picks with his trades, not complaining. JD isn't the problem, it's Jets' fans attitudes.

 

Who did you want again?

 

Yes, but even Belichick stunk his first HC job. And he still makes dumb decisions (see the Cowboys/Pats game this year). And bad drafts (many bad drafts). Shanahan in SF looked good with the previous regime's players, but when he started drafting his own, what's his record?

I find it impossible to judge Saleh after what he inherited and his HC inexperience, so you've got to give him at least another year. Actually, one thing in his favor is the team's inconsistency. If he was really bad they wouldn't be winning anything. But what about the game White won?

Ron

 

Is it? Serious question. Is it fair to make that leap? The positions are different.

 

Pederson. Had HC experience, offensive-first thinker, progressive coach big on analytics.

I also read a lot of Eagles forums and the consensus from their fans seemed to be that Roseman was primarily to blame for their circus last year, not Pederson.

 

After what he went through with Wentz, I'm not sure if he was the right guy. Amd to be fair, no I e hired him.

 

it' way too early to judge. we have the youngest team in the NFL. a 1st year HC, rookie QB, a new 2nd year GM who had to break everything down and has stockpiled picks we haven't got to use yet. Give it a couple of years

 

I looked at a lot of scouting reports for Becton and while weight was cited as a potential issue I don't recall seeing any real injury concerns about him or that he missed a lot of time in college with injuries

 

Injuries are always a concern with people as big as Becton. We see it all the time with heavier tall guys in the NBA. They're both more prone to injury because of lack of quickness and also take longer to recover when hurt because of the added weight on the joints.

 

They were in such a damned hurry they didnt give Pederson a fair shake. Came to agreement with Saleh on Jan 17th, Pederson was fired late at night Jan 11th. I think after the Gase disaster they didn't want to hire a recently fired coach at all and never even gave Pederson real consideration.

By "they" I mean the Johnsons. Pederson and Joe Douglas are friends, he would've absolutely been at the very least a real candidate for the job if Douglas was allowed to pick his coach on his own. Saleh and Douglas didnt even know each other prior to his hiring, that's how you know it was these idiots the Johnson's who mettle too much and hired them both separately

 

I preferred Daboll as it also would’ve been a subtraction for the Bills. But, everyone passed over Pederson and Daboll this past off-season too.

Saleh’s our guy for at least another year my dudes.

 

That's a very unpopular take these days but I think he should get at least 2 years like Gase. Not that head coaching candidates are beating down our doors but shit-canning a newly hired coach that took over a 2 win team is a bad look.

 

I think Pederson elected to take the year off more so than not being wanted.

If Pederson would be willing, I think it'd be a no brainer to can Saleh in favor of him after this season. Assuming we don't improve A LOT over the rest of our games.

 

We consistently move on from coaches and players a year too late. We moved on from Darnold, Gase and Bowles a year too late. All of those wasted years add up very quickly and are a big reason we are stuck in a perpetual rebuild.

I really think continuity is overrated. Bad coaches don't automatically become good coaches with more experience. Most guys just aren't cut out for the job. It's best to move on early when it's clear they aren't the guy.

If we continue the season this way, getting blown out over and over, is there really going to be any good reason to retain Saleh other than some sense of obligation to give new guys multiple years?

 

Even at 2-15 and the defense setting records?

 

Let's assume Saleh wins 4 games (very doable.) I don't think the job looks very appealing to a HC candidate when the last guy took over a train wreck of a team, doubled their wins.l and got fired after one season. That's the optic I would want to avoid.

I get it. The teams looks awful especially on defense. The only time I would condone firing a coach after one season is if he lost the players. If that happens then all beta are off.

 

Not out of preference. But out of history? Yeah he’s going to be here whether we like it or not.

I also have to believe we win a couple more games but hey maybe not.

 

but he didn't have a history of injuries or issues though - the Jets have made far more risky picks in the past with players that had missed time in college with injuries