True, but he did have a pro bowl year in 2002 and still didn't make it. He had the highest QB rating in 2002, I think.
You guys it's not a big deal. Young has been getting better and better and throwing and he obviously can run. He didn't really even have any targets ...er...doesn't have any targets in Tenn. I don't know why some of you think it's such a disaster than Young is going before Chad :lol:
Losman isn't over Pennington - Chad ran the Jets offense, Losman played the role of game manager. Pennington did a far more difficult job and did it better than Losman did his. I'd have Pennington #5 in the AFC this year. As has been noted the top 4 are set, then Chad, McNair, Losman, then probably Young before you get to the dross of 06 - Roethlisberger, Harrington, Carr, Huard/Green, Walter/Brooks, Plummer/Cutler, Frye/Anderson, Leftwich/Garrard/Gray.
Lets be VERY realistic here... Chad did NOT have a probowl quality season... He was up towards the top of the league in interceptions in THE MOST conservative passing offense in the league... His completion percentage means nothing since 75% of his passes in this offense are less than 10 yards... and he STILL managed all those ints... we made the playoffs DESPITE Chad, not beause of him... Vince Young actually single handedly WON games for the Titans, and didnt LOSE ANY on his own... Chad def LOST us a couple... I suppose some of you Chad apologists will also say you'd rather have Chad as our QB than Vince Young, who is an absolute stud who outperformed all rookie QBs by a MILE in his rookie year... His completion percentage wasnt good, but look who he's throwing to. Drew Bennet, probably his best reciever also had the dropsies all year...
Of course you would.:rofl: I could see McNair, but not Losman. Would you seriously put Losman over Pennington? I am just checking to see if you made a typo.
Youngs passing numbers may be poor, but when you throw in his rushing stats, he had a very good year. 2751 yards, 19 TD's in 13 games.
Well, now that I look at their stats, I see Losman's 7 lost fumbles, but he still had only 1 more turnover than Chad. He still had more TDs, less INTs, a better rating, and a higher YPA. For a situational/statistical standpoint, which is basically what the Pro Bowl is, it's a toss up. I'd personally go with Losman, especially since he had weaker wide receivers. Why do you take Pennington over Losman, other than the fact that you're a homer?
Carr??? Are you kidding me? Pennington was better than Carr in every possible way. The only thing Carr might have better than Chad was comp %. And that was because Houston had the MOST CONSERVATIVE passing game in the NFL. Carr's 'breakout' season was a sham.
Pennington was the leader of a 10-6 Playoff team. Losman was the quarterback of an 8-8 team. Both had good years in my opinion. Pennington wasn't supposed to come close to what he did after his 2 surgeries. I think that plays a factor. If you think just stats determine the Pro Bowl, you are crazy. Losman plays in a small market, less people know who he is compared to Pennington. I agree with NYJATW though, in that I might be making too big of a deal out of this. I just felt it was crazy to allow Young to replace Rivers over about 5 other guys I would of chosen.
Pro Bowl has absolutely nothing to do with team records because different players have different surrounding casts. It doesn't matter what Pennington was supposed to do. Maybe he was supposed to live up to a 7-year, $64M contract. But he didn't do that, did he? If you think that being a Jets player who had similar-but-lesser numbers to someone else deserves a trip to the Pro Bowl, then you're not only crazy, but a homer. Who cares if Losman plays in a smaller market? It'll effect the voting, yes, but I'm pretty sure that won't play a factor in deciding replacement Pro Bowl players. And yes, it was stupid for VY to be chosen, but would have been pretty dumb if Pennington was, too.
Everyone needs to realize I don't think Losman or Pennington deserve to be in the Pro Bowl this year. With the people deciding not to go, I felt Pennington could be next in line. Pennington was the heartbeat of the Jets and CPOTY, so I would consider that enough to be selected over Losman. If Losman was selected, I am sure you and most would disagree with that decision too.
But that has nothing to do with Pro Bowl. I'd take Losman and Young over Pennington in the long run right now, but I'd have to think it over if it was for a one year thing such as the Pro Bowl.
