I completely agree with this post. Especially that last line..its JV in a nutshell..and wow..thats going to piss some people off. To those that are pissed off...trust me..in my little Jetland mind..away from real life...Im not happy about it either. Its JVs athletic ability that gets him there...and he doesnt have a true ability to sniff out plays. Now people will bring up the amount of tackles he has year in..and year out. Lets all take a deep breath and remember exactly where 90% of those tackles are made.
Yes I also charted how many yds gain the other side gained before JV made the tackle over several games & the average was almost 5 yds per game. That to me was conclusive evidence that JV ability to sniff at the plays was on the weakest side for NFL MLBs
wait wait lemme get this straight. You dont even have the time to watch the games live, but you have to the time to dig up stats and give it a scientific analysis ? Riiiiiiggghhht.
Instead of constantly knocking the message..why dont you come up with the stats to back up your claim that he was a "beast". Please give us all the plays that gave him this new nickname. Can you come up with 5 games in his career (thats about 1.5 a season) where Vilma carried the jet defense on his back?
He needs a shot at OLB, a chance to make plays, they have him zoning in the middle all day reacted to the play after the snap instead of having the liberty to shift and shoot gaps on read he makes pre-snap. Give him a shot to play Thomas' role one day. I do agree he is MIA all season, mostly being swallowed by blockers.
See jtd...that was my point to this thread..thats what I watched...and for the most part, that wasnt the case. He wasnt being swallowed up by blockers. For the most part..he was free to go from side to side on Droughns sweeps. He doesnt have the insticts to read plays quickly and get at or behind the line of scrimmage. I do totally agree...olb might give him a better shot of taking his physical abilitys (which I fully agree are great) and letting him "not think" and just play.
how else would I know ? I read the boards. I remember something about vacations and grandchildren. Thats all I remember correct me if im wrong.
Well do you think I am away EVER week? Ever hear of tape machines also? Before posting the garbage you posted about me you should have sent me a PM to be clear of what I do & do not do
IF - and that's a big "if" because this assessment may be premature - but if jaywayne's assessment is accurate, then i think he needs to move to OLB. i don't think we can dump him or let him walk, because he will become a beast on another team in the near future. i say move him around a bit at OLB, let him get after the QB, and dirsupt the running game in the backfield coming off the edge. cheers
It would be great to move him, but he's been playing MLB for the past 8 years probably. The switch probably isn't as easy as it seems. I'm not sure how much longer Vilma will be here
Actually IMHO the FO blew it & should have moved him last off season when his value was much higher then it would be this up coming off season
The problem is Vilma is way too small to be playing ILB in the 3-4. He has to be moved outside where he can use his speed and match up with smaller offensive players such as the FB or TE rather then the C or G. 3-4 ILBs have to be big.
Jesus Fucking Christ...all you fucking Vilma apologists can eat shit already... Look...if he was getting to the point of attack and then not making the play I'd agree with you... but..seeing as how he nearly always makes a tackle once he gets to the man, size isn't a problem... the problem is that he's dumb and doesn't read plays and relies on his athleticism to make plays which unfortunately occur 10 yards upfield
As much as the cursing is a bit overboard...I crack up when I read posts like this. I guess you feel pretty strongly? Take the cursing out of the equation..and I dont think its that JV is "dumb"...some guys have an eye for the ball..and some guys dont. Some players can read plays much easier..and trust me, Im a bit shocked to have reached this conclusion. Now, JV will probably go on to have a great career. EM/MT will eventually surround him with more size and speed....and JV will be able to roam free. The point of the thread is that JV isnt a Ray Lewis...will never be close to a Ray Lewis..he isnt an Urlacher..he cant dominate games. So let the front office and coaching staff move on.
What are you talking about? The problem is he cant shed blockers. How many times a game do you see the RG or C push Vilma 8 or 9 yards up the field. He's too SMALL. I'm not talking about tackling people, I'm talking about roaming the middle, being in the trenches with the big boys and sheding blocks! Making the tackle 10 yards up the field after you've just been driven back 8 does us no good. He ether runs himself out of the play, or is run out of the play by someone else. Once again, look at some good 3-4 defenses from the 80's and 90's. You need BIG ILBs. Bottem line.
In his first year he looked like he had the potential to carry a great defense. I think your analysis is wrong. The problem is that Vilma is a 4-3 MLB not a 3-4 ILB.
it's not like vilma is having a bad year...he is getting a good amount of tackles a game, i'm sure he is being hit by blockers from all angles, and it seems like we are dropping him into coverage a lot too...personally, i'd like to see the staff use his speed in the pass rush....but let's remember this is the 1st year in a new defense which obviously doesn't fit our personel very well any thoughts on possibly moving vilma to OLB, then shifting him into the middle when we switch 4-3 or in nickle packages?
Ray Lewis was THE star during their SB run and was a "true" star, however when they switched to a 3-4, he vanished pretty much and bitched about the switch, now I am not excusing all his average play this year, but to say that the switch had nothing to do with it is silly to say the least
