Vilma Compares Dogfighting to Horse-Racing?

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    The difference is that people are making the choice to become boxers or fighters. The dogs have no choice.
     
  2. Amaru

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    Go to a site such as imageshack.us and upload it on there. It'll then give you a URL and you can use that for inserting the image.

    And um, I agree with Vilma. I think all my points have been made for me. So that's all.
     
  3. joesmoe39

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    you are either having a couple of momentary brain farts here or you still just don't get it and your brain must be completely out to lunch(brain dead). vilma used horse racing to avoid taking the proper stance(dog fighting is inhumane). in other words he spun and twisted his way away from showing some guts, duhhh. do you get it now, or are you really this hopeless!!!
     
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    is this the best you can do? this response is all i need to know about you. IQ in the single digits at best!!! what ever school you went to, you should file a law suit.
     
  5. Sinjz

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    Don't be ridiculous. Nobody is making an 'infant' run a mile. A two year old colt is NOT an infant. It's like saying you're forcing two infants to fight in a pit. An even dumber comparison than the horse racing/dog fighting one.

    I'm talking about the actual sport. You are trying to twist it, and are talking about those who would abuse the animals while training it. This inbreeding BS is way overblown. And not that it's relevant, I suspect that it exist in dog fighting. BTW, how would both dogs and horse fair if they both had 'good' trainers? I suspect the horse would have a happy existence while the dog would still be mauled.

    The only purpose for breeding chickens are to lay eggs and so I can pick between dark meat and white meat. What's your freak'in point? That has nothing to do with the actual sport that involves running, unlike dog fighting which revolves around maiming.

    Oh and because you "are showing a lot of ignorance in your stance" I'll spell it out for you. Horse aren't killed after sustaining leg injuries "because their use it over". They are shot because they can no longer survive properly. It's a mercy killing. Horse need to stand on all four feet. They never lay down, not even to sleep. Not many blood vessels in those thin legs, so when they get injured there, it's ALWAYS life threatening.... Barbaro could of been worth millions in stud fees, yet he was still put down because after all those surgeries, they couldn't get that leg fixed. Also most two years olds don't race a mile. They race shorter distances like 6 furlongs, which for an animal weighing in at over 1000+ pounds, is not that long a distance.

    I wish some of you could debate the issue without the put downs. It just picking a fight and it sucks when half of you don't know crap of which you speak.
     
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    Try uploading it here:

    http://tinypic.com/

    Then post the link on this board. :)
     
  7. fenwyr

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    I appreciate a good debate, but your personal attacks directed at folks in this thread have become boring. YOU show YOUR ignorance by not being able to put together a decent argument without hurling insults. Saying "I'm right and you're wrong because you're dumb" over and over is not going to win you many debates, or respect as a new poster on this board for that matter.
     
  8. fenwyr

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    OK, so in horse years you're forcing young children to race, risking serious injury, long term disability, and death.

    If a non-elite race horse sustains a leg injury, they are killed immediately, "because their use is over." Elite horses have the potential to still make their owner alot of money, so those owners get to play god basing their decisions solely on greed, as in the case of...

    Barbaro should have been put down immediately. Here is a case where a greedy owner put a horse through months of painful (and expensive)operations, when everyone said from the beginning there was little to no chance of saving the leg.
     
  9. joesmoe39

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    i'm not calling you dumb as much as i'm saying you've got the green glasses on and still won't admit vilma's response was to spin and take a piss poor/gutless stance. if it was another player on a different team, i doubt you would be spinning this subject the way you presently are. you have still avoided the main point that this is not about horse racing. that was spin! it's about DOG FIGHTING...

    new poster, established poster has nothing to do with this either, more spin. i do not seek nor want respect from someone that will not admit wrong is wrong. dog fighting is wrong and vilma's spin was also.
     
  10. joesmoe39

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    fenwyr; To be clear, I am not a fan of racing or dog fighting, but to call people "sic" for not taking a "stand" when YOU refuse to take a stand on racing only makes you look like a hypocrite.

    i guess you are above hurling insult's and name calling!!!! you do have a very selective memory!!!!
     
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    Well everyone is entitled to their opinion but please let's not try to legitimize the sport where an animal is injected with a variety of drugs from norepinephrine to a variety of steroids, confined to a small cage and deprived of socialization with humans or other animals and then discarded or abandoned when their fighting ability doesn't pay. For the life of me I just don't see the pleasure in watching animals suffer. Vilma has lost my respect and quite honestly wouldn't mind seeing him go. He isn't a good fit for mangini's defense anyway.
     
  12. york61

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    Well everyone is entitled to their opinion but please let's not try to legitimize the sport where an animal is injected with a variety of drugs from norepinephrine to a variety of steroids, confined to a small cage and deprived of socialization with humans or other animals and then discarded or abandoned when their fighting ability doesn't pay. For the life of me I just don't see the pleasure in watching animals suffer. Vilma has lost my respect and quite honestly wouldn't mind seeing him go. He isn't a good fit for mangini's defense anyway.
     

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