What you and Mr NJJets have not understood is that its not the eating of the animal thats wrong , it s the treatment of 'live meat' which is incredibly cruel. Some of these cats and dogs are kept in cages not even big enough to tun around in , often with about 15-20 companions. Kept in wire cages with no food or water. Most have broken bones where they have been tossed off trucks in the cages , ah fuck it , they're just dumb animals , right?
yeah but you cant link vick to any of that. the only thing you can say is that he breeded those dogs for the purpose of fighting which is a crime. that's like saying the dude that buys a bootleg dvd, and then his money goes to terrorists is now an al qaeda sponsor. and i'm italian and live in an italian neighborhood so about the organised crime and illegal betting thing...
i have not now or ever eaten dog or cat so i dont know what you're talking about, if that's how cows are treated then i will feel bad for about 0.2 seconds right before i eat my next steak.
We were talking about dog fighting in general , but I'm sure that if you pushed it , some dirt could be found. Actually again , organised crime is often behind such copies. It cost the film industry $Mssss and it filters down to the up and coming producers. Thank god Clerks was made before DVDs were main stream.
I have eaten dog...shocked? My father was stationed in Hong Kong for 7 years. I give up on this :bangs head on wall:
good cause i'm out, i'm just saying though that i think a dwi is worse then dog fighting. all we're disagreeing with u on is the punishment for the crime. if u wanna have him be reincarnated as a fighting dog next time around cool, i personally would go with a fine and community service but to each his own.
You ever hear of a factory farm. My ex-girlfriend worked at an animal rescue farm in upstate NY for a summer and believe me, the meat we eat from these farms is just at tainted. Are you aware that most major chicken companies squish them in a cage and cut off thier beaks so they cant fight, then a lot of them are fed thru a tube placed down thier throats. If you're gonna rail against animal abuse, why don't you start with the abuse that YOU support with your business on a regular basis. If you are conscious of all of the meat you purchase then I apologise, but by your previous comments, it appears you are ignorant of such practices. and if you can prove dogfighting would keep me from ever hearing of Kevin Smith, I'll start lobbying for the death penalty right then and there and I don't even believe in the death penalty.
one of the most absurd arguments I've ever seen. So these scumbags have to abuse animals or humans as "an outlet"? are you deranged? dog-fighting is unacceptable.
That is a pretty bad argument. These guys get millions of dollars in their 20s to play a sport. They've never had real jobs and they'll probably never need one. I could use that kind of stress.
why is that so amazing?? the dogs were treated very well!! they obviously can see dog fighting for what it is.... sport!!
you do realize the dogs had to be put down, right? you do realize that Michael Vick is a felon, right?
the dogs were put down because they were bred for fighting, and therefore would not and could not be placed in a loving home, not because they were abused! No!! Michael Vick has not been charged with any crime as yet. He will be a felon only after being found guilty by a jury of his peers (dog fight breeders) :rofl:
Almost all dogs involved in this "sport" end up dead. They either die as a direct result of fighting or are euthanized because they are too violent to be around people.
by your tone I assume you equate being breed for fighting as an abuse because they are dogs and are all cute and cuddly. Rottweilers, German shepards, Dobermans and Alsations are breed for "security" purposes, and will tear a suspect to pieces!! is that abusive?? I would say not!! It is just the nature of those breeds. I doubt very well a Pomeranian could ever be breed or trained to fight visciously, just not their nature!
I once owned a pit bull who, judging by its vicousness towards everyone not living under the same roof as me, had to have been the offspring of a fighter. (The dog had to be put down because it would have mauled somebody if it ever got loose. Hilariously though, it was a wimp with my 7-lb. cat.) I also had nice, friendly lab mixes my whole life. So I know both sides of it. Your comment about breeding for security is not what we are talking about here and therefore, it's not worth addressing. We're talking about dog fighting. Breeding dogs for fighting and putting dogs in small "arenas" and forcing them to fight is abuse.
not sure why you don't think the security trained dogs who will rip apart a trespasser is apart from this conversation, but oh well, I don't think the dogs are forced to fight! I think by their breeding and training, they attack other dogs in their circle. A show of dominance.
