It's a win anyway you look at it. Either of those options are great or the Schaub option will work too. All of them though seem a little too good to be true.
Where have you been the last few years. He is one of the top 5 pass rushers in the NFL. You know what you will get with him, draft choices flop all the time. With a healthy Abe you know you will get 10+ sacks a year and one or two game changing/saving plays, can you say the same for anyone in the draft or any free agent out there with any level of certainity? That is why he is a top teir player and worthy of a 1st round pick, kudos to the Jets FO for sticking to their guns, Dumbway would have caved and took a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him already.
And with a non-healthy Abe, meaning every season except last year, his contract year? Yes, we know what we get with him, inconsistency. Granted, his play last year was improved, but it doesn't make up for the prior seasons. Also note that alot of his sacks were compiled in the same game against inferior lines- not really season or game changing if you ask me. And listen, 10+ sacks a year does NOT warrant the kind of money he is looking for. With the kind of money he is looking for, you should see Strahan-esque #'s, every season, without fail. I agree, by now Dumbway would have traded Abe for a 3rd round pick and a box of peanuts.
Please, he's not even in the top 10.... "First round draft choices" don't flop all the time.... Abraham has eclipsed 10 sacks, only 3 times during his six year career. Looking at the numbers, the most he's ever had was 13, and that seems like a long time ago. Abraham is not worthy of a first rounder. You may get one, but it's robbery if you ask me....
How am I being biased??...Just because I think Abraham is an overrated DE, and isn't worth a first round pick??... I take it you're one of those Jets fans who thinks J. Abraham is among the top 5 DE's in the NFL??...LOL!!!
53.5 sacks in 6 years, even with all of his injury issues. And he's just entering the prime of his career. How is that not worth a first round pick?
I agree he is not a top 5, but an argument can be made for top 10. Well, first round draft choices do flop. "All the time" is kind of subjective. It happens though. Probably more than it should with all the resources teams put into scouting.
The injury issues are one of the reasons why I consider him overrated. It's not that he's a bad DE, he's a very good one, but he's not worth a first rounder at this stage in his career.... The prime of his career??...He's entering his 7th season. How many more seasons can a team expect to get "first round production" out of him???... A first round pick, for a player like Abraham just seems like alot to me. The Falcons already have a solid DL, maybe they want to make him a LB, who knows. But hey, more power to you if they give you a first rounder. The Falcons mistake....
Many DEs continue to produce well into their mid 30s, in response to the post above. Abraham is 27 I believe. Hes got IMO a good six years left, which is what I think his new contract will bring him
All stats and opinions aside, several teams are very interested in him, willing to pay him close to what he wants, and give up 1st round draft choices, the guy is a game changer and worth a 1st IMO. Besides, being a Jets fan why on earth are you saying he is not worth a 1st rounder, jesus if some team wants to give us a 1st rounder for him my god hype the guy up and stop saying he is not worth it, it only benefits the Jets if we get a 1st rounder. Last time I check 1st rounder > 2nd rounder :lol:
"Besides, being a Jets fan why on earth are you saying he is not worth a 1st rounder, jesus if some team wants to give us a 1st rounder for him my god hype the guy up and stop saying he is not worth it, it only benefits the Jets if we get a 1st rounder. Last time I check 1st rounder > 2nd rounder" Blitz is a Fin fan I would love to know if this is just another rumor, like the one that went around last week in regards to the Skins, or if something is happening
Believe me, I think that I speak for the group when I say that if we can get a first rounder for this guy, let's do it. That being said, most Jets fans are done with this guy and he's really left a bad taste in our mouths, following his inconsistent play and excessive salary demands... Let's hope that this thing gets wrapped soon, it's time to move on.
Anyone who thinks either of those projected deals is for real is out of their mind. Atlanta is going from not wanting to give up the #15 to giving that up IN ADDITION to a future 2nd?? Please, we MAY be able to get the 15 but we're not getting anything more, lets be rational.
Excuse me but that story is from today's AJC.How is this thread more current?Because some fan website reports the Jets are supposedly close to trading Abraham for a couple of picks.How is that report credible?
NFL sources said Abraham may find his long-sought contractual commitment from the Falcons. A source confirmed team officials had a late meeting with the defensive end and were trying to hammer out terms of a multiyear deal. If the sides agree on parameters such as guaranteed money -- Abraham has been seeking $18 million to $20 million in bonuses -- the final hurdle would be the Jets, who will get compensation to make the sign-and-trade of their franchise-tagged player. Atlanta hasn't wanted to give up its top draft pick, 15th overall, or QB Matt Schaub, Michael Vick's backup. But the fact that the Falcons were talking turkey with Abraham indicates they realize they will have to part with something of value http://www.northjersey.com/page.php...lRUV5eTY4OTgxMzEmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2
The rumor states that we would get the #15 pick plus a future 3rd, not 2nd. Atlanta has to be more realistic here, they are going to have to give up something that they value. I would think that they realize that there are other interested teams, and they will need to offer something that puts their team over the top. And to whoever said that Abe isn't worth a first rounder: elite pass rushing DE's are very hard to come by in this league. Abe is entering the prime of his career, and his gamechanging potential on the field is certainly worth a first round pick.
