Unbiased Case for Saquon at 3

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  1. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    So does his OC Bevell :mad:
     
  2. K'OB

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    What, like saying I wouldn't be upset if we went with a QB at 3 ?

    It is called having an open mind and not stating your own opinion as fact, that was the real point of the post, every thread your on, Mac is doing this, we are selecting that etc etc you do not know what the fuck Mac is thinking, that was the fucking point.

    I will however laugh my arse off at you if we do not select a QB at 3 but like I said I am not bothered either way QB or Barkley either or is fine with me, preference for the later of course because it is allowed to have a thought of your own at the end of the day.
     
  3. Seth

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    You're allowed to have whatever opinion you desire. I also have the right to openly mock it and display how illogical it is, simultaneously. Of course you prefer Barkley, you think he is the messiah and is more valuable than a franchise QB we badly need.

    And it does not take a genius to realize we're going QB. The only person who fails to understand that is you and the rest of the Barkley homers. I can't wait to lick your tears in a month.
     
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    I always appreciate "outside the box" thinking, so I give you credit for that and having an open mind, and frankly I wouldn't slit my wrists if we wound up with Barkley. That said, Barkley may well be taken at 1 or 2, and Macc knows this, so I don't think he gave up what he did, risking that.

    Also, it's clear from his "all in" chase of Cousins, and trading up to 3 that he sees getting a FQB as a MUST, which is good because he understands the urgency involved.

    And while the Jets did pretty good when they had a strong running game, they weren't the "best they ever were". For THAT you need to go back to the days of Namath - yes it's been that long! - when they had a great passing attack, and an above average running game. ANd THAT is the formula they need to return to after all these lost decades.

    So, no, I don't they take Barkley, unless Macc has identified a QB that might be there with their 2nd pick who he thinks could be a FQB, or he has his eye on a QB coming out in 2019, but that would be a Massive gamble on his part and I don't see him as that big a gambler.

    Nice discussion idea though.
     
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    That would be a hard sell to the fan in New York. We don't have the offensive line in place yet for that type of runner. We really don't have it in place for a FQB either. As always we half way do things. It would be a head scratcher with the signing of Crowell.
     
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    But that goes totally against Magic Macc BPA theory. You know the one where your team needs a QB every year and you ignore that.
     
  8. Brook!

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    Or where Watson and Mahomes are sitting there and you go select a damn Safety and next year trade 3 second rounders for prospects that you can't say will be much better than Watson and Mahomes. Look I got my issues with Macc but even Macc isn't going to pass up drafting a QB. If he does, I will provide you a gun and ask you to shoot me.
     
  9. FrontOfficeFanatic

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    Thanks for the feedback! I honestly love the back and forth ideas going on before the draft hits, especially since after the draft there tends to be a pretty long dry period in terms of things to talk about with football.

    I understand why some think I lost my mind when I mention picking Barkley and I get it. One of the reasons I put a disclaimer on the post was to make sure folks don't think I'm saying we made the trade up for Saquon or that I think he's our best option. Going back to my Rosen/Darnold discussion, these are just thoughts after making the trade (which I PERSONALLY was against) and assuming the safer guys like Darnold and Rosen are already off the board.

    My argument is that, on most boards, Saquon should be significantly higher than guys like Allen/Mayfield and he's the safer prospect regardless of position. Not to mention is projected to be a game changing player with a pretty high floor. Again, it's a discussion, in my fantasy world the Browns pick Allen and the Giants go Barkley......Darnold is sporting the green and white for 20 years and the golden boy gets a golden jacket ;).

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  10. Seth

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    BPA theory goes out the window for a QB, especially when you trade 3 2nds to move up 3 slots. Barkley is great in a vacuum, but the reality of the situation forces us to go QB.
     
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    mahomes and watson werne't worth the 6 pick. many had watson pegged as a 2nd rounder and mahomes as a late 1st rounder. maybe he tried to trade down to get one? we don't really know, but taking either of those at 6 would have been a huge reach. still anyone outside darnold or rosen at 3 this year is a huge reach so not much different.
     
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    If the JETS were at #3 based on their given seeding I wouldnt have a problem with them taking Barkley at 3, but given the resources they gave up to aquire that pick it would be stupid at this point
     
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    Sunk costs are sunk. I'd be furious if we took Barkley at 3 regardless of how we got the pick.
     
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    Because you're looking at this in a vacuum.... Barkley + 3 2nd round picks opens up ALOT of options depending on how the board falls
     
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    Good point. Though if we had the 2nd rounders we could also grab a running back with one of them. And there are usually good RBs to be found later in the draft. So it would still be unacceptable to pass on premium QB prospect to take yet another chance on a flyer.
     
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    This reads like an ESPN 30 for 30 lol

    If the Jets had the QB they needed, and a pelthora of draft picks at their disposal, I would love Barkley. He's probably the best player in the draft.

    Unfortunately, they don't. Gotta take the chance on the QB, no question IMO. Even with a significantly higher chance to bust.

    Seeing Barkley on First Take yesterday did make me want him as a Jet. However, att this point, I think it would be irresponsible of the Jets to take.

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  17. K'OB

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    Hmm, do you need me to write it in fucking hebrew ?

    Bold 1, oh please point me to my post that says this or even hints at him being a mesiah ?

    Bold 2, please go back and read the post that I have mentioned to you twice now, I won't be bothered if they draft a QB, so you won't be licking any salty tears from me whoever we draft in 3.

    So stop being an utter dick, there is really no need for it, you see you have no right to openly mock anybody anywhere be it in real life or online.
     
  18. stinkyB

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    Or Barkely + Lamar Jackson
     
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    Excellent summary!
     
  20. HomeoftheJets

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    I don't think Jackson will get past the middle of the first round. We could trade additional picks to move up, but we'd probably end up giving up more than we did to move from 6 to 3. I'm also concerned with how Jackson will do when he can't run as much anymore. College defenses used resources to keep him contained, but NFL defenses won't need to because they know he'll get hurt if he runs like in college.
     
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