Unbiased Case for Saquon at 3

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  1. Seth

    Seth Active Member

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    I won't have to, because there is a better chance of pigs flying than Barkley being drafted by us.
     
  2. Seth

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    Please answer my point then. Name me the last team without a FQB to trade up for a RB in the top 5. I'm fucking waiting....
     
  3. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    You don't support GM's who believe a project or a system QB in college, can be the #3 pick in the draft just because you need a FQB 3 years from now, over a talent like Barkley.
    Do you even understand what game changers do for QB's? Probably not.
     
  4. Seth

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    Then we would have never made the move up to begin with you fucking moron. It's a QB only move.
     
  5. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    If that is your argument, it's a paper thin one.
    Teams trade up for talent at any position more often than any one position because of need.
    Go count the times that has happened, you won't be back for a while.
     
  6. Seth

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    The answer I BELIEVE (might be wrong) is Cleveland for Richardson in 2012. So quite awhile ago, and more importantly, how did that work out? ;)
     
  7. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    No it isn't ass hat.
    You played soccer right?
     
  8. Seth

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    No, they don't trade 3 2nds when they don't have a FQB for anything but a QB. Not any smart franchises that is.
     
  9. Seth

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    Dawwwww, it's going to be okay, I promise. Barkley won't be here, so don't jump off a bridge on draft night, okay buddy?
     
  10. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    QB's never use their brains, like you.
    Head trauma in a soccer game?
     
  11. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Implications don't mean shit.
    Show me where the owner said we were taking a QB at 3.
     
  12. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    When he is here, you gonna kiss my ass or shave an eye brow?
     
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    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad you aren't our GM.
    I bet anything we don't take Mayfield or Allen over Barkley. Wanna wager?
     
  14. NCJetsfan

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    Good and fair post. I can understand your concerns with Mayfield. If I had my druthers, he'd be 6'4" instead of 6'0" and wouldn't have done any of those immature things. He did, however, and the Jets need a QB who can help the team forge an identity and a new culture. I think Mayfield and Rosen can do that best, and I also think both fit the Jets' offense better than Darnold and Allen.
     
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    You're so deluded it's quite said. Just don't jump off a bridge when we draft a QB, okay?
     
  16. Seth

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    I'll wager you whatever that when we select 3rd, we are taking a QB. I cannot state who it is, but only that it will be a QB.
     
  17. ColoradoContrails

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    You (and tbruner) make a compelling case.
     
  18. ColoradoContrails

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    Methinks you doth protest too much.
     
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    TBH, until very recently the NFL didn't really track concussions, unless they were career/life threatening.
     
  20. ColoradoContrails

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    Playing devil's advocate here. I believe we take a QB - hopefully Rosen - BUT consider this possibility:

    Macc knew he had to trade up to get a FQB, or Barkley. Assume his primary target was a QB however. At the point in time he made his trade, he might not have had all the info he needed, but he had enough to know that he liked 3 if not 4 of the QBs, plus Barkley. Since the trade he and his staff have been able to drill down deeper into these guys and even see them up close, and MAYBE have decided only two of the QBs are worthwhile. If that were the case, then if both of those QBs went 1, 2, Macc might consider taking Barkley at that point.

    As you and others have said, "Macc didn't trade up for anything but a QB", but at the time he made the trade he might've overvalued two of the four, and might think Barkley is a safer/better pick than the other two QBs. Again, this is not what I really believe, but I do think it IS possible. Keep in mind this is the same GM that took two safeties last year.
     

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