Ulbrich

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Jojo, Sep 19, 2023.

  1. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    27,023
    Likes Received:
    21,383
    You should be flagged for coming into a thread about our defense to bitch & moan about our offense.

    15 yards and loss of down! :mad:
     
  2. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,258
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    I guess you forgot the 3 and out to start the 2nd half, plus the terrible punt that put the ball on the Dallas 40yd line for their first possession of the 2nd half.

    ...and the Jets D holding them to 3 points.

    Again three 3 and outs to the start the game, I'm calling it that because it was Fake punt that got us the first down on the 3rd possession.

    The Jets D played fine.
     
  3. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    27,023
    Likes Received:
    21,383
    The Jets D played fine?

    Now that's a hot take!. :p
     
    JetFanInNE, Jojo and bicketybam like this.
  4. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,258
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    And not to mention the Dalvin Cook fumble on the 2nd possession in the 2nd half – the Jets D holds the offense and they score a 55yd FG to add 3 points to the board.

    So that's 6 points to start the half where the offense shat the bed to start the half and put the D in a terrible position.

    If Zach Wilson hits Wilson at end of the half to go 18-14, but scurried in the pocket when if he just stands strong and delivers a strike it’s 18-14 game.
     
  5. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2003
    Messages:
    7,059
    Likes Received:
    3,452
    Dallas drove the ball at will on 4 of their first 6 non kneel down drives before the defense got tired though I believe.. If they are already getting tired in the first half or early in 3rd than we got bigger issues.
     
    #25 94Abraham, Sep 20, 2023
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2023
  6. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2009
    Messages:
    4,102
    Likes Received:
    4,123
    Watching the game tape is infuriating.

    The Jets had Dallas pinned back to the goal line (I forget the exact situation). Ceedee Lamb hits a slant for like 40 yards. Who was in coverage? Sherwood lol. You can't make this stuff up.

    Oh, and Lamb fumbles and a Dallas OLineman recovers the ball 40 yards downfield.

    They were outcoached in all facets of the game.
     
  7. Jojo

    Jojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2021
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    305
    Perhaps Ulbrich should go up to the box to see and call the game, like Dan Quinn masterfully did vs us. His play calls make NO sense. Same shit as last year, identical.
    Oh , and let's SIT our #1 draft pick, a pass rusher, for a guy who does nothing.
    Dying to see how we play vs pats.
    Not holding my breath either.
     
    JetFanInNE likes this.
  8. Jojo

    Jojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2021
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    305
    THE JETS DEFENSE DID NOT...NOT..PLAY FINE.
    NO SACKS
    NO TURNOVERS
    EVERY 3RD AND LONG...COMPLETE
    SAFETIES ON WR.
    DISASTER
     
    JetFanInNE likes this.
  9. IDFjet

    IDFjet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2014
    Messages:
    3,781
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    I know there's no need to pile on, but living in Wisconsin, that Center who recovered the fumble was taken in the 2020 draft as the last player of the 4th round, The NYJ took Cameron Clark 17 picks before him. That was the year we signed Connor Mcgovern to his way too big multiyear deal.
     
    Lon Chaney and ColoradoContrails like this.
  10. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,258
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    Have you all lost your minds. The NYJ Offense started on the NYJ 31 as their BEST starting position.

    Dallas started on NYJ side of the field on 3 positions. and near half field on 2 positions.

    Starting field position matters.

    Look at the drive summary. my gosh.

    Offense DID NOT move the ball.
     
  11. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,258
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    Actually this play 9 times out of 10 defense recovers. We caught a bad bounce here.
     
    Lon Chaney likes this.
  12. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    15,970
    Likes Received:
    5,250
    There were many smart, effective decisions made at half time . . . by the Cowboys coaching staff.
     
    Jojo likes this.
  13. Jojo

    Jojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2021
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    305
    AND THE DEFENSE ALLOWED 30 POINTS. THE DEFENSE WAS VERY ..DISAPPOINTING INDEED.
    SOMEONE BROKE DOWN ZACHS PLAYS PLAY BY PLAY.
    THE OL IS A DISASTER.
     
  14. cmcm750203

    cmcm750203 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    1,129
    I think it was this site but I could’ve seen it elsewhere. Apparently someone asked Saleh why the defense can’t change up looks or something when things aren’t working and he said something along the lines of they’re not allowed to do that or we can’t do that. He basically gives his D no freedom whatsoever. It’s dumb and rigid.
     
  15. cmcm750203

    cmcm750203 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    1,129
    They didn’t play fine. The usual dink and dunk over the middle killed us as it has for 20 years. Couldn’t get off the field on third down. Kudos for tightening up in the red zone, but they gave up a ton of yardage between the 20’s.
     
    Jojo and ColoradoContrails like this.
  16. cmcm750203

    cmcm750203 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    1,129
    Billy boy is gonna eat us alive with slants if we don’t clean this shit up.
     
    Jojo, ColoradoContrails and Cman69 like this.
  17. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2022
    Messages:
    2,012
    Likes Received:
    3,023
    I disagree. Biadasz (a guy I was begging JD to draft), hustled his ass off. He had no reason to run the way he did other than to be ready for a potential fumble. It’s like a right fielder in baseball, technically he should be running over to backup throws to 1st base on every play. 99% of the time they don’t because 99% of the time the throw to first is accurate. The ones who hustle save the 1% at the expense of having to hustle 99% of the time for nothing. They make the sacrifice. Biadasz made the sacrifice while our players have their mentality in the 99% world. It’s lazy, if you’re not making the tackle and you’re in the vicinity you should always be aware and looking for the ball. It’s the same mentality that Garrett Wilson had celebrating Breece Hall’s run while the guy he should have been blocking ran by and caught Breece. We don’t finish, we’re not disciplined at all, and we don’t have that deep desire to do the little ugly things that need to be done on every play.
     
    Pepsiguy5, NY Jets68 and Ralebird like this.
  18. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2022
    Messages:
    2,012
    Likes Received:
    3,023
    He said “that’s not our game or style” when asked why Sauce or Reed didn’t cover Lamb man to man when they kept moving him to the slot. Saleh said that’s just not how we play Defense. Saleh isn’t building an intelligent Defense, he’s trying to stack it with great players that can overwhelm the offense. The problem is we have some really good players, but I don’t see game changing greatness at any position right now, including Q and Sauce. Aaron Donald is greatness. Micah Parsons, Nick Bosa…. Those guys are greatness. Our guys are the next level down, they can be neutralized as we’ve now seen time and again. Calling a basic D with intent to overwhelm opponents with talent looks really bad really fast when the opponents are either equally or more talented, or much more intelligent to expose our weaknesses that Saleh stubbornly refuses to acknowledge or account for. Saleh would rather see us carved to pieces from the slot every week than adjust.
     
    ColoradoContrails and cmcm750203 like this.
  19. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Messages:
    14,203
    Likes Received:
    10,165
    the D was on the field for 43 mins out of a 60min game and thats with dallas letting up at the end. they held up good for over 30 mins but got gassed eventually. It was a 1 possession game at halftime with the jets receiving the ball and we got blanked in the 2nd half. the fact we held them to all FGs in the 2nd half while gassed is pretty good. this falls on the O not the D
     
    KY Jets Fan likes this.
  20. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2003
    Messages:
    7,059
    Likes Received:
    3,452
    No one says they did so I don’t know why you are making that up. The defense doesn’t get a pass because the offense was dreadful. They both were bad. Giving up 30 points for a defense that is supposed to be top 5 shouldn’t rarely happen.
     
    KY Jets Fan likes this.

Share This Page