Specifically in the Jets' context, carving out a large cap hit for a QB would limit the Jets' ability to address glaring holes all over the roster. i think Cousins is worth franchise QB money. Not Taylor. Glennon isn't even close.
I have my reservations about going after Taylor because I think he is a guy who is very likely to get hurt year in and year out, but I am also intrigued by him. What I like about him is that he is only 27 (will be 28 on opening day next year) and is still being molded as a player. IMO, he hasn't reached his full potential and has shown some very good flashes. He's also easily better than anything we have on the roster.
I could be wrong but I have a feeling the Jets are going to get Anthony Lynn as OC and bring in Taylor. It doesn't look like Lynn is going to get a HC this coaching cycle and the Jets are the only ones left with an OC available. I think it would be a good hire. Lynn has worked here before and he and Bowles worked together in Dallas under Parcells. Like others have said. Taylor is better than what we have but I fear he might not be better than a 500 qb. At least he doesn't turn the ball over and is a competent qb. It could be worse. Not sure what others think but I think this is going to happen.
I can see it happening, if that's the case, Mac needs to sign or draft a worthwhile RB, because I don't see Powel or Forte as the type of backs that are going to withstand the type of punishment that Lynn is going to put them through. Mcoy was used heavily in Buffalo and neither of the guys the jets have is as talented as he is. I wouldn't object to Lynn, he is a balanced OC who likes to run the ball, I don't need Taylor to come with him though, give Hack or Petty a chance with a good running game and see how they do.
I agree he'll rely heavily on the run. Bowles will be looking for his balance as you say with an emphasis on the run. Powell is a guy that should get the ball 10 to 15 times a game. More than that I think he is too brittle and would be exposed to injury. Forte is a workhorse but at 32 and coming off surgery he couldn't be relied upon to more than 15 touches a game. The need for a younger running back would be needed. Hopefully the Jets can find a reliable back in the 3rd round to add to the mix. My biggest fear with Lynn and Taylor is that the Jets would be a middle of the road team. 8-8 to 10-6 and never get to the top of the AFC. I think it'd be like the Chiefs with Alex Smith. Always competitive and in the playoff hunt but never gets over the hump to the Super Bowl.
I just can't see the logic of bringing in a QB who you think can only get you between 6 and 9 wins, unless he's a backup and being paid like a backup. By all means pay Tyrod or someone else if you think he has a good shot of getting you into postseason, but not to go 8-8.
Taylor isn't going to get anything close to what Cousins will get though. So it's not really even a conversation. We just paid Fitzpatrick $12 million. You could probably get Taylor at that figure -2 years $24 million. That's fair and doable. Cousins will ask for something absurd, like $100 million over 5 years. Taylor can't ask for that, his agent would never be allowed in a negotiating room again. so it's not much of a comparison. I like Taylor, he has some nice pieces. He has some weaknesses though. He would win some games here. My only concern about bringing him in is that it completely changes the dynamic of this offense. If you want to groom Hackenberg and Petty, I don't think Taylor is the right guy because his style is so different than theirs. If you don't really care about grooming Hack & Petty and want to run a one read and go offense, then Taylor isn't a bad option.
I think Mac has learned his lesson in regards to dishing out big money to JAG at the QB position. I don't care what the market calls for, if your going to go 6-10 with a $14 million dollar average QB, then do what Denver did and have an average season with a 2 year QB.
Before we can get Taylor we have to see what happens between him and the Bills. Both sides seem to taking sides regarding his guaranteed 30.5 million dollar salary if he cannot pass a physical by March 11th. The Bills have publicly called the surgery elective surgery. Taylor said he has been suffering from a severe groin injury and got surgery at the advice of the doctor refferred by the Bills. It apoears unlikely he will be able to pass a physical by March 11th and the Bills comments seem more posturing than substantive. Maybe the Bills are trying to leverage their way into a short term 2 or 3 year deal which is something Taylor likely wants but 30 million for one year sounds so much better. I don't envision there is much of a chance he becomes a FA unless he heals very fast. I would not be surprised to see him get multiple surgeries like Kap did last year to guarantee his salary.
If I were Taylor, I'd be pretty pissed off with Buffalo. That was bush league that they benched him just to avoid paying him and their handling of his offseason surgery is also pretty pathetic/amateur.
If you can sign him for a fair deal, I say you do it. He's better than anything we've had in here for awhile
Why would Taylor negotiate with them? He just signed a deal last year, that guarantees him $30M in March 2017. The Bills benched him in Week 17 because now they don't want to pay him. I'd argue he has the leverage here, not the Bills based on their week 17 performance. There are many QB starved teams that would gladly take him. The latest reports are that he should be healed right around the March deadline. If anything, the Bills may have to pay him more if he hits the open market when other teams start bidding (if they want him). However, with a new coaching staff, they might just want to move on once and for all.
I hear what you're saying. We definitely want to win a SB, but I have to say that just having a team that is always in the playoff hunt and competitive would be a refreshing change.
If the Jets are going to run a one-read and go offense, why would Petty be so different than Taylor? After all, that is basically what Petty ran in college at Baylor. He may not be as big a threat to run as Taylor, but otherwise, I would think the same offense would suite him as well as Taylor.
Belicheck in NE will be looking for a Brady replacement in the next yr or so. How funny if Taylor ends up there.
because I don't want Petty ignoring intermediate routes all game and only throwing deep or checking down. At least I don't want him to learn to play the game that way.
I agree, but isn't it really a matter of your not wanting Petty to play the same as Taylor, rather than the offense not suiting him, or do you see a one-read offense as basically neglecting intermediate routes?
some of you need to readjust your abacuses. the salary cap is going to be over $170 million in 2017. for reference, it was $123 mill in 2013 $18-20 mill for a qb is not a big deal now. and in tyrods case, we would probably only have to guarantee the first year if hes available, i would seriously consider signing him
I think any offense led by Tyrod Taylor has to be built around neglecting intermediate routes because he can't throw them. Why sign a QB to considerable money and then build an offense that emphasizes his weaknesses? They wouldn't - they would build to his strengths and that would hurt the development of the other QBs on the roster. My original point. Unless of course they don't care much about the young QB's and want to roll with Taylor's style. But if you get him you are going all in on him
