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  1. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Why Did Raider draft Louis Murphy 6'3 200 sub 4.4 when they had DHB, Schilens, Johnnie Lee Higgins and Arman shields 6'1 195 sub 4.4 already. Never have enough, size speed and depth.
    You put a three Wr corps of Chaz Schilens 6'4 225 sub 4.4 , DHB 6'2 210 sub 4.3 on the outside with a Louis Murphy 6'3 200 sub 4.4 in the slot. Yes in time thats going to be a lethal Wr corp. Raiders are primarily going to be a running team that makes occasional big play down the field. When those Wr develope than you will see something special.


    There is a diffrence between sub 4.3 speed(dhb) and Shilens speed (sub 4.4) You can do so much more with DHB. HE can can come around and take a handoff from the Qb . Than you have a guy with sub 4.3 runnning around the corner with space. Fake the handoff to DHB _ Your freezing the LBS and safetys. Now you have Mcfadden 6'2 210 4.33 coming out of backfield, TE Zach Miller streaking down the middle, and Chaz Schilens 6'4 225 being the deep threat. A Cb one on one with Schilens and your going to take a chance he going to be able to use his size to come down with football deep on smaller Cb.


    You can give handoff to DHB, he gives it to Mcfadden on a reverse. Now you have a defense which dosen't know what direction to go in. You fake it and same scenario plays out.

    How about this wildcat formation. D Mcfadden as the QB , J fargas the rb, M Bush the FB , Zach miller the TE and Chaz schilens and DHB as the Wrs. Imagine the possibilities.
     
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  2. rmagedon

    rmagedon Active Member

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    Not to Joe he doesn't. Did you know that in 4 more years, Russell will have at least 2 Super Bowls rings under his belt?
     
  3. NJRaider

    NJRaider New Member

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    I know he completed over 60% of his passes in the second half of the year. I know his 53% completion percentage is comparable to Eli Manning's first year as a starter. I know a lot of great QBs have struggled out of the gate.

    I'm fair but what standard is Russell being held to, Jack?
     
  4. rmagedon

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    So the logic behind picking up DHB was to overkill the league with speed. Forget addressing needs at the OL just get fast WR's. You also do realize you face other teams besides the Jets, don't you? Teams who are known to pass rush the QB and get to him.

    Chargers get Merriman back and they just Drafted English who can pass rush. The Chiefs addressed their DL to make sure they stop the run and can get to the QB. The Broncos (tho they have ways to go) got Ayers who is projected to have a successful year like Jerrod Mayo did for the Patriots.

    I don't know Joe, it's going to be hard for Russell to get the ball to these guys (who'll be 40 yards downfield in 4 seconds) when he's accuracy gets exponentially worst the further he chucks the ball. When Cable and the league realize that Russell can't successfully hit open receivers down field, they'll scale back the offense to 5-12 yard passes and then the offense will be exposed.
     
  5. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Raiders got Line help through Trades C samson satele- great fit in their blocking scheme and FA Khalif barnes (jaguars lt) who will play Rt for the raiders. They added Eric Pears(broncos Olimean that can play RT or LT) Marcus johnson (vikings ex Rt) who fits Raiders zone blocking scheme better tahn Vikings scheme. Johnson will be giving a chance to compete at Rg. Lets See LT mario henderson(solidify oline down the stretch) LG R gallery - should made the probowl last year C samson satele RG Cooper Carlise/Paul Mcquistan/ Marcus Johnson RFT Khalif Barnes. should be a very good Oline both for the run and pass.

    Its easy with Russell he dosen't have to throw the bullets that far down the field. Thats where you can overthrow or underthrow them. You put a ark(we know he can throw it as far as anyone) Let your wrs make the adjustments. This isn't a pennington or sanchez situation as nthey don't have the arm strength to get those passes out there. Your reading too much into situation.
     
  6. rmagedon

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    If all Russell has to do is just add an ARC to his throws Jeaux, you better hope he consistently tries to overthrow his receivers then, because underthrowing his passes will make them easier to be picked off. However, the way I see it, overthrowing Schilens and DHB who have questionable hands at best will get exposed and no one will respect the long ball.

    I'm reading into the situation because you make it sound so simple. You etch these plays on the sand and you think Defenses around the league are retarded and they'll fall for the same play over and over again. If it was that easy that a guy sitting on his sofa can do it, then why hasn't Cable or Al Davis figured it out yet? Here are your two options Jeaux. Either you really don't know what it is that you're talking about. Or you do and Al Davis and Cable have absolutely no clue how to run this team to another Championship. Which one is it? Cause neither you or your team are going in the right direction. So, which one is it?
     
  7. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Wtf?

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  8. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    Well Jeaux, since your so certain the Raiders will be fighting for a playoff berth and the Jets will be drafting in the top 5, why don't you put up or shut up:

    If the Jets finish ahead of the Raiders, you agree to a lifetime ban from TGG. I figure that's proper punishment for another wrong prediction.
     
  9. NJRaider

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    I totally get your point, but some here go so far in the opposite direction on Russell because Joe works them into a lather, it's ridiculous.

    All reasonable football fans expected to see of Russell in his first full season as a starter was progress, and they got it. His last 7 games included QB ratings of 88.4 (@ Miami), 149.1 (@ Denver), 85.7 (New England), 128.1 (Houston), and 98.9 (@ Tampa Bay). One doesn't have to be drinking the Silver and Black Kool Aid to admit that the kid got better as the year went on.

    But what he did against live bullets pales in importance when compared to a minicamp in May of course.
     
  10. rmagedon

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    Ur not fun to argue against cause you are reasonable and make sense. Get out of here! You don't belong in this thread. This is a Jeaux thread. This is where u laugh at the face of uncertainty and make bold predictions without thinking twice about it.
     
  11. nyjetsrule

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    No problem. to be honest, you could be the best poster on the site but because you are a raiders fan (which means you are associated with Jeaux) you will get tons of flack.

    Russel hasnt exactly proven to be anywhere near worth the #1 overall selection, but at the same time, Quinn hasn't even played, and people are ready to dump his ass. So it seems pretty clear that their was no superstar QB in the making coming from that draft. Still i think Russel flops, and i think DHB flops even harder.

    I also pre-draft wanted no part of any QB in this draft. But as far as that trade goes to go get a guy they believe is franchise capable, its worth it to try. I still don't know what to think of Sanchez, game wise what i have seen of him, doesnt strike me as having superstar potential, but the guy damn sure talks the talk better than anyone i have ever seen. He is one charismatic S.O.B. If he plays even half as well as guys like Mr. E expect he will, we will win tons of games simply because he will inspire people to play way above their normal capabilities. That impresses even me.
     
  12. NJRaider

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    I know, I know. :up:

    I hate to say it, and don't be offended, but Joe plays the tune and you guys dance. This whole thread exists because a Jet fan who couldn't give two s**ts about the Raiders has been reduced to trolling Raider blogs looking for any bad news from a May minicamp!

    Admit it, it's funny.
     
  13. rmagedon

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    We'll see who's laughing in the end. We TGG'ers might be the laughing stock now but when posters such as rmagedon (6'5", 225lbs, 4.1-40) and The Uniform Bomber (7'11", 238lbs, 3.01-40) proves that Jeaux was wrong once again, we'll be laughing in your faces as we both go on to win TGG best posters awards 8 times in the next 2 years.
     
  14. NJRaider

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    As far as Russell flopping, refer to my post above on his progress last year. He's not where he needs to be yet but the stats show improvement that certainly overshadows a couple of bad practices in May with new teammates, etc.

    As for Sanchez, I'm stuck on his number of starts. JaMarcus started 29 games and many people, including some on this site, have taken pains to point out that 30 starts in college is the "magic number' to predict NFL success. Guys with 30 or more starts tend to do well, guys with significantly less than 30 starts overwhelmingly don't. Of course then you have a guy like Brady but I digress.

    Sanchez has 16 starts. Some say it's against great competition, but the PAC 10 is competition for USC like the Washington Generals are competition for the Harlem Globetrotters. The SEC, now that's competition. Sanchez is a good kid and I think he has the personality, but so did Leinart. Still think it's a risky move for the Jets when they're pretty much built to win now everywhere else. Woody Johnson shows a tendency to worry about "making a splash" and selling PSLs in a way that sometimes contradicts everything else the team has done up to that point. Case in point bringing in Favre with little or no time to learn the Jets' system last year...
     
  15. NJRaider

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    That's it, I'm running a 40 this weekend so I can mix it up...
     
  16. Killeri9590

    Killeri9590 Banned

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    If he wasn't such a troll constantly making up wrong predictions, shove us combine #'s down our throats, and constantly declaring having a better record than us every yr for the past 6 years...if he didn't do any of those we wouldn't be so hard on the raiders
     
  17. NJRaider

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    I get it...
     
  18. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Al Davis hates blacks from Notre Dame.

    I am a ND fan... Davis is now off my senile list and on my evil racist list.

    Note: these lists aren't real.
     
  19. Raiderjoe

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    Yea Al Davis is a racist. Has done more for blacks than any owner in any professional sports. Lets see drafted the first African american QB. Hired the first spanish coach, hiried the first black coach, and he hired the first woman to reach the highest level of any organization Amy Trask. There was al davis before there ever was a Rooney rule.
     
  20. Jets FTW!!

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    Raiderjoe don't you have better things to do than argue with jet fans? Why don't you go talk to your raider buddies or something and feel good about yourself. Or atleast go outside and play some sort of sport
     

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