Typical Jets.

There's so much wrong with this post. The Jets were down by 10 in the 4th qtr against the Broncos and never scored another point. The Jets were within one score of the Steelers and had a real chance of winning. Rex has the Jets closer than Parcells did. He also did it with a second year developmental QB that couldn't hold Peyton Manning's jock on his best day. Parcells did change the culture and had the team competing at a high level but his main drawback was the draft and it was whenever he was in position to make the final decision. Groh drafted that year and has spoken about it multiple times, all he did was consult with BP, Parcells would probably have traded down 4 times if he had any reason to care about the future of that team.

Stop making excuses for Tuna, he's able to blow himself better than you are in any given interview

 

for most people that have a clue they don't need the reinforcement but I'll spoon feed you again. I hope you take these lessons and apply them in future debates.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/04/16/sports/manning-may-have-been-waiting-for-sign-from-the-jets.html

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1997-03-09/sports/1997068188_1_bill-parcells-archie-manning-peyton

 

BP changed the culture here, I appreciate what he did but he also cost us Peyton and/or BB/Brady. we took Chad in 2000 b/c of an extra pick we got for BB. you think it would have been better to keep BB, draft BRady later and not get Chad? and I love Chad and appreciate what he did but he's not Tom Brady.

 

I was not banned, I was suspended b/c too many whiners didn't like me making them look foolish w/ their Ryan Tannehill discussions.

a little background, the board wannabe GM calls Ryan Tannehill a young, more athletic version of Tom Brady. Seriously. a guy who has shown nothing in big games is a younger and more athletic version of the guy who from day 1 as a starter turned around a sinking franchise and became the best big game QB in the league. I won't stop responding to nonsense like that, if it gets me banned for good so be it but I will always deal in reality. That poster is an otherwise good poster but his judgments get clouded w/ Tannehill b/c of the asinine statement he made and continues to try to back up.

Now go run and tell the board like the nice little lapdog you are.

 

Everyone passed on Brady multiple times including the Patriots. That's a completely unfair criticism. They struck gold with a 6th round pick they took a flyer on. No one foresaw that coming. Belichick himself almost took Tim Rattay instead. It was a fluke circumstance and no one is to blame for it.

 

I am not blaming him for passing on Brady as Groh was in charge of the draft anyway but if he doesn't run BB off we don't select Chad and have the same NE staff in place here and I would guess we would have taken Brady at some point.

 

that is a VERY large assumption to make.

 

So go follow your loverboy Rex to Buffalo then.

 

I'm not sure I agree with this, just assuming Belicheat would have taken the same draft choices on a team that was built with different players is highly unlikely, it's just as possible the Brady goes undrafted, it's the paradox effect

 

I don't even like Rex, but your post was so stupid that it needed to be called out

 

maybe it is but the QB situations in NE and NYJ were somewhat similar and he would have had same staff here he had in NE that picked Brady.

Obviously nothing is in stone but the chances would have been much better the other way.

 

BAWAAAHAHAHA

 

How is a 28 year old Drew Bledsoe and a 37 year old Vinny coming off a torn Achilles even remotely similar?

 

both of us had established starters and might look for a guy later in the draft. the only reason we took Chad in 2000 was b/c we had 4 1st rd picks, it was a luxury pick we wouldn't have made w/o all those picks. If BB stays here we don't have 4 1st rd picks and BB loved Key- would he have traded him for the other 2 1st rounders? maybe but I doubt we take Chad if BB is here.

 

"I think..."
"No one from the Jets made direct or indirect overtures."
"Peyton wanted..."
"he kept waiting"
"Parcells didn't tell him"
"It never got to a situation..."
"Spoke one time and that was it."
"I never really got into it too much."
"Just talked about certain situations."
"No sense of what he was going to do."
"...wasn't trying to find out."

What a load of vague nothingness.

Great, Juncman!
Go ahead and hang your hat on those quotes.
If that constitutes common knowledge of why Manning is not a New York Jet, I don't want any kid in my family learning to read where you did.

 

oh boy, let's just move on. Rather than see you embarrass yourself any further let's move on.

 

Bwaahhhaaahhaaaahhhaaaaaa!

 

I don't understand the Manning/Parcells thing anyway.

A professional, Superbowl winning HC in the NFL is supposed to grovel and beg at a college kid's feet now?

An entire organization needs to assure they will put any other potential plans on hold for a kid and his dad?

If you are looking to blame someone, blame the Manning family for being self absorbed d-bags in that scenario. Trying to put themselves above the game. Just like they were with San Diego. Manning wasn't coming out anyway he loved the college life they were just toying with the Jets.

 

on to the offseason. tired of dealing w/ those less intelligent than me.

 

Peyton had the leverage of going back to school. all BP had to say was he'd take him and he would have been a Jet. He didn't and it's a major reason why he was an awful drafter, he was trying to win now w/ no eye toward the future. I don't blame him for that, we knew that going in but the man did cost us Peyton and/or BB/Brady.