Tuesday's Trade Deadline

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by playtowinthegame, Oct 30, 2016.

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Who's going to be traded?

Poll closed Nov 1, 2016.
  1. Sheldon Richardson

    23 vote(s)
    23.0%
  2. Brandon Marshall

    1 vote(s)
    1.0%
  3. Both Sheldon + Brandon

    5 vote(s)
    5.0%
  4. Nobody will be traded

    71 vote(s)
    71.0%
  1. RonPi

    RonPi Well-Known Member

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    He wasn't playing well, and neither was the defense, so Belichick cut the cord to energize his defense. We need
    to trade a defensive player AND an offensive player to Cleveland to kick some ass, but this superstar shelter we run,
    it won't happen.

    Ron
     
  2. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    I can't see anything happening. Trade deadline is second only to the Supplementary Draft for it's headlines-to-inactivity ratio.

    (Prepares to eat crow...)
     
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  3. WhySoSerious488

    WhySoSerious488 Well-Known Member

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    I would try to move Marshall or Richardson, if we can get a decent return.
     
  4. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    Pats get compensatory 3 for Collins ( 97th, 98th,99th 100th etc, pick)

    Collins is statistically better than Sheldon. No way we would get a higher pick
     
  5. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah let's trade Marshall so we have less weapons for our young qb. That's real smart
     
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  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yeah, trade anybody good we have because we won't be able to pay them anyway.
     
  7. WhySoSerious488

    WhySoSerious488 Well-Known Member

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    The team needs to rebuild. Unimpressive wins over the Ravens and Browns does not change not. The last two seasons, we sent out a veteran heavy team in an attempt to make a run. It didn't work, and now we have a huge question mark for QB next season. Marshall is a good player, but he should be sent to a better team closer to playoff contention than we are, if we can get something decent in return.
     
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  8. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Get real. It's not stupid. And they wouldn't be trading him because they drafted two other elite DEs. They'd be trading him because they can't afford to pay all three DEs what they want (and even if they could, shouldn't tie up that much cap space on the DL), can't play all 3 at the same time, and have many other needs/holes on the team. They'd also be trading him because they desperately need cap space next season and he's either immature or a bit stupid.

    You don't just hold onto a player just because you drafted him. When you have lots of holes and needs and have a marketable player who isn't going to make that much difference if he's gone, you trade him.

    So in your twisted logic, it would be better to wait and let him walk in a year as a FA, then the Jets would get only a low 3rd round compensatory pick (if that) for him. Brilliant!
     
  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to send him specifically to the Browns just to send a message.
     
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  10. King Koopa

    King Koopa Well-Known Member

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    Browns will either resign or franchise Collins so it's a solid deal for them

    Richardson is in a more premium position and has another year on his contract so I don't see why we would get less for him

    And if we can't get anything better than a 3rd round comp pick we should keep him for sure
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    We won't trade anyone because we're not a properly run franchise. If this team had any balls, we'd get rid of some pieces for draft picks similar to what the Patriots just did with Jamie Collins so we can get as much young talent next year as possible.

    We won't though. *sigh*
     
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  12. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point? lol What logic is behind drafting 4 3-4 DE's (including Coples) in a 5 year span when if they are worth there draft spot they will all need to be paid? There is absolutely ZERO logic to trading an elite player like Sheldon for less than what you spent on him when he hasn't even reached his second contract.
     
  13. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    They never should have drafted 3, but they did, and now they have to make the best of the situation, and the best they can do is trade one of them, to help other areas of the team and the cap.

    As I said earlier but which you ignored or didn't read, is that they either trade him for a second round pick (his off field behavior lowers his worth) or wind up losing him for a 3rd round compensatory pick (really a 4th rounder) or worse.

    WRONG! The only and best thing they can do is to trade him. We'll just have to disagree. Improving the team is much more important than some silly "rule" about not trading him for less than he's worth. Besides, he will be a distraction and bad role model for young players with his talking about money all the time.
     
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  14. DoubleDecker87

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    Exactly my point again. Thanks
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    That's stupid. It's past. The only way they can "undo" a past mistake is not repeat it, and do what they can to "fix" the situation. The "fix" is to trade Richardson.
     
  16. westiedog1

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    The problem here is that I haven't seen anywhere near a decent draft from this management team yet. Leonard Williams was a no brainer, but there is plenty of room for criticism on the rest of the picks. So you would be giving up all-pro talent but getting what in return? On the other hand, if they were to package the picks to move up in the draft to take a QB, I'd sign up for that.
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    At a minimum, the Jets would be getting cap space, and getting a distraction and potential headache off of the team. They'd certainly get more for him in a trade than they would by allowing him to walk as a FA and getting only a compensatory pick for him. They'd also force our clueless HC to go back to the 3-4 alignment from the ridiculous 4-3 he's been trying to run with Richardson at OLB that hasn't been working.

    I disagree with you about the quality of the drafts. They'd definitely be better off whether they bundled the pick as part of a package to move up or drafting a player. Even on the chance the pick did bust, it would still be addition by subtraction.
     
  18. DoubleDecker87

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    Judging from recent history, most likely another 3-4 DE.
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Well, the problem is that there's really no first round pick market out there as we saw with Wilk. If we could've gotten a first rounder for him, I'd imagine we would've traded him in the offseason. So knowing that we're wasting talent when we have a plethora of other holes, you wouldn't trade Richardson for a second and a fifth? Chandler Jones is statistically a better pass rusher and he netted a second and a fourth.

    I just think it's a bit absurd at this point to be constantly looking for first round picks. The market dictates what we'll get and at this point we need to take what we can get for one of these guys or else we're just going to continually waste their talent and watch them clog up the lanes for each other. I'd just hate to see Richardson walk without getting multiple picks that we should be able to get for him.

    I'd also love to see us accumulate some god damn draft picks already. Seems like we have less than 7 every year. Maccagnan seems to be the guy that can make wine out of water if he has the resources in front of him. When considering that we need a complete face lift of the offense, and specifically the offensive line, we need as many as we can get.
     
  20. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The draft is a crap shoot. Look at New England's draft history. It doesn't look like they have had a draft in Belichick's tenure without at least two picks in each round.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/draft.htm

    He's not an elite drafter. But he makes sure he hedges his bet every year so that at least a couple of them become contributors.
     

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