Training Camp News and Tweets

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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    True story
     
  2. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly

    The owners want “us” on their side

    (US being fans and media who control the narrative)

    You don’t become a billionaire by being dumb
     
  3. GreenfiendNYJ

    GreenfiendNYJ Active Member

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    Agreed, I thought these were the exact type of quibbles the rookie wage scale was supposed to address.
     
  4. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    Where are all of these available vets and why can’t we sign any of them at CB or OL?

    I think the crappy vets get cut and deservedly so. Continuity isn’t worth a damn if the players stink.
     
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  5. Biggs

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    The median income in the NFL is 860K. There are a ton of vets and rookies playing for the league minimum for that to happen. You have no clue how many players on the Jets and ever team in the NFL are making the minimum salary because you only care about the big star players who move the needle.

    On last years SB championship team three players with salary-cap numbers of $10.9 million or more. Three players earned between $6 million and $8.5 million, eight made $3 million to $5 million and 17 earned between $1 million and $3 million. Twenty-one were paid less than $1 million, according to spotrac.com.
     
  6. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    What does any of that have to do with your original point? You said that veterans are getting cut to make room for rookies. You said it hurts continuity. I disagree. High performing veterans, the type you’d want for continuity, aren’t getting cut left and right. Underperform and/or overpaid veterans are being cut. These are the kind of guys you sign if your desperate. It makes sense to bounce them and take a shot on a rookie.
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    so does anyone actually have anything to say about training camp or is it just side discussion about dicks, balls, and contracts?
     
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  8. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    it was more dicks than balls
     
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  9. Biggs

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    NFL players across the league are playing for multiple teams every year. They are cut every year and are still better than most of the rookies. They are cut because the rookie minimum is lower than the vet minimum. The Pats won the SB with 21 players on minimum salaries. It's not desperate if 40% of the best team in football roster is made up of players making the minimum.

    Good teams cut Vets, lots of them every single year for salary cap reasons. They trade out star players before their walk year every year for cap reasons. The rookie salary cap did nothing to change any of it. It accelerated that by making it economical to do it.

    If you root for an NFL team you know that special team players, low paid rookies and low paid vets are the key to a season where attrition wins the day. The owners are getting filthy rich while 40% of NFL players are treated like cannon fodder.

    Most fans who would blow Tom Brady wouldn't blow a veteran special teams player who makes a key block on a punt run back that sets up field position on a key playoff drive who they never heard of. We know they would kick the rookie in the balls who missed the block and caused a fumble who was making the league minimum.

    The owners should be giving way more than half of revenue to salaries. The minimum salary should be substantially raised. Rookies should be slotted but they should be able to enter FA after a year or two not after 3 to 5 years. The tag should be gone immediately.

    There's a cap, the owners are protected. The players aren't protected, their contracts aren't guaranteed. The owners are overly incentives to cut vets for rookies. It's an economic incentive that has nothing to do with ability or proven play value.
     
  10. Brook!

    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    Veterans are reporting tomorrow and training will start then. Until then dicks and balls really. But like jonnyd says more dicks than balls.
     
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    tomorrow? awesome! ok. one more day of dicks and balls is fine with me
     
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  12. Jets81

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    You’re actually arguing that football players should make more money? And yes, there are some good players that are cap casualties. Overwhelmingly, though, it’s the lower tier guys that don’t make it out of camp. The kind of players you dump to make room for a rookie.
     
  13. Biggs

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    Of course they should. It's the most dangerous sport on earth and the lowest paid of all the sports. The owners make more money than any other sport. Of course the players should be making more money. Not the top players the bottom players.
     
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    The heirs to the Johnson & Johnson billions would like a word with you.....
     
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  16. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    ok so back to dicks............................
     
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  17. Biggs

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    Practice? Do you really want to talk about practice? I'm going to do a hamstring stretch in 15 minutes. PM me and I'll give you a link to the recorded footage.
     
  18. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    the Gold Bond really gave you whiskey dick? that's scary. I'm about to throw my whole medicine cabinet in the trash
     
  19. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Dicks and Baltimore.
     
  20. Jets81

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    Football isn’t the most dangerous sport on earth unless you have a very narrow view of what constitutes a sport. And they make plenty of money. If it’s not enough they can do what everyone else does, get a new job.
     
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